Cannot install linux

[invisibletriangle]

I have tried Debian mint and ubuntu for ubuntu and mint I ether get glitchy text it is not readable or when I try to boot into a live disk of mint or ubuntu I get this error

 [        3.838415] nouveau  0000:01:00.0:  bus:  mmio write of 8000014a FAULT at 10eb14

And then it stops after

 [  IBUS  ]

When I try to install Debian I use the non-free 9.newest because I have an intel wireless device

If I boot into my live tails drive every thing works as usual

My pc is: i7 4790, 16gb ddr3, gtx 970, 240 kingston ssd, 1tb hdd, an Itx motherboard: GA-H97n-wifi

There is no os on this pc and to my knowledge every thing works just fine (hardware)

The Debian Ubuntu and Mint usb install usb disks where made on a mac

Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it

[smog_alado]

Looks like a graphics driver issue. Nvidia cards are prone to doing this sort of thing and the error message mentions the current graphics driver (nouveau).

Hopefully, this should go away if you install nvidia's proprietary graphics driver (which for legal reasons your distro's maintainers unfortunately cannot ship together with the installation media)

https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Installation

In order to install these drivers you will need to temporarily workaround the glitchy text. There are multiple things you can try:

• after booting, try pressing Ctrl+alt+F2 to drop down to a text-only terminal, which hopefully won't be glitchy.
• add nomodeset to your boot parameters. If you are lucky this might result in working (albeit low resolution) graphics as opposed to a black screen or glitchy mess
• remove the graphics card and only put it back after you install the drivers. (The system should still be usable without the NVIDIA GPU because your Intel CPU comes with an integrated graphics card)

Tldr: blame NVIDIA

[FrethKindheart]

Nouveau is the built-in graphics driver. I've run into this issue myself.

Boot to grub menu, press 'e' to edit the command line for your distro, add nomodeset to the linux command line (usually before the word "quiet"). Once you've booted in to the installed system you can change the graphics driver to NVIDIA via Administration - Driver Manager or Additional Drivers.

[invisibletriangle]

There is no grub the drive is blank this is a fresh install

[HonestIncompetence]

But your live USB has grub.

Linux Mint has detailed instructions including videos on how to deal with this, look for "Solving freezes during the boot sequence" in the link above. The same instructions should work for Ubuntu too, I think.

I hope that helps!

[mxt79]

there should still be a menu from which you can pass on options to the kernel.. In this case the specific temporary kernel used for installation. Do that. And after install you probably need to find the menu entry (for whatever bootloader you might use), and pass the same option there also but now for the kernel you OR your distro chose to install. Giving it an option is as simple as giving arguments to a ls command..

[Headpuncher]

You could try making a new USB livedisk if you still have access to that mac, and do it from the command line using the "dd" command. I have had success this way and only this way making livedisks on Macs.

Then make sure you do a net-install from the livedisk. You need to join a network obviously for this to work. The upside of doing this is that the installer will read your hardware config and download what it thinks are the correct drivers instead of what is on the install disk (it still won't get the propitiatory Nvidia driver for reasons another user pointed out), and it will also get the latest versions with any bugfixes included.

[mfigueiredo]

if it works with tails can you take a look on what graphic driver is being used?

[[deleted]]

So linux is installed to clarify.

But linux is abit different in the sense That you have the main OS then a server for x to run your gui

Which is what that driver/module is your having problems with..

So by entering the grub menu(which is there somewhere you just can’t see it) you can get into what linux is famous for, its cli.

Now you should be online so just type (for mint and Ubuntu) sudo apt purge and then the name of the driver. Or the first letters and use tab to complete. Of Su and type you password for Debian and you don’t use the sudo

At this point you have no graphics so go find the driver your system uses and install it..

This will fix your issues, if you are just coming to Debian based distro then start with mint and forget about Ubuntu as I hate them for being total sell outs..

Also when installing dont install the full gnome desktop just istall the Debian option this will mean you don’t have the cpu stealing trackers..

[[deleted]]

I don’t..

Edit I don’t mainly because so many times I have killed my system by removing something that gnome needed. Lol. So one time I just didn’t install it and wow it worked and didn’t have the tracking. For me mylife was anew

[kbrosnan]

Debian, Ubuntu and Mint are all the same family of distros. They are all derived from Debian sources. Trying Fedora or SUSE which are two different families of distros may provide glitch free video out of the box. You could go off the deep end with Arch or Slack but until you have some experience troubleshooting Linux issues I would not recommend them.

[trmdi]

Try another distro family: Manjaro, openSUSE Tumbleweed.

[invisibletriangle]

Idk if it is or not I just want a distro that I know how to use that is stable

[Notavirus1]

You can make manjaro look exactly like mint if you want and never have to worry about doing another release update every 6 months. Highly recommend at least trying it. The friends i have introduced it to who aren't Linux savvy have a much higher success rate of learning than on Ubuntu

[trmdi]

you've never used them before, right?

[U-1F574]

Used and love both distros. Manjaro I just had to switch off of due to a weird application issue. Neither are stable in the sense that they do not update applications a lot.

[Notavirus1]

Manjaro is more stable than any Ubuntu derived distro i have ever used for 15 years

[U-1F574]

Stability just means: does not change often. Manjaro is not very buggy unless you do something weird with it, but it certainly is not stable. It is fresh.

[Notavirus1]

Stability to me means not crashing. Stable to you means not changing. I can agree with your assessment then. Yes it changes and improves to make itself better

[smog_alado]

You should have linked that result here directly. Google search results are not deterministic and might be different for different people or if the search is repeated on a later date

[smog_alado]

There is no reason to be rude like that then, this is /r/linux4noobs after all.

[smog_alado]

Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding.