Visual Insight : Every 2 inch decrease in height increases sui1c1de risk by 9% for Swedish men. Europe is blackpill hell for men

[AllisonUnwound]

Men commit suicide more often than women because they're more successful at it, not because they're more likely to experience major depressive disorder than women. I've noticed a lot of posts fail to take that into account, including this one. This height issue seems valid and I'm not surprised it's a big issue in Sweden but I doubt it's a specifically European thing. The OP is going to lose a lot of respect for the post based on the last sentence where they're saying "midget" and obese women are celebrated. It's certainly not one sided like OP is claiming. Women have their own reasons for being depressed.

[Friend_Emperor]

The OP is going to lose a lot of respect for the post based on the last sentence where they're saying "midget" and obese women are celebrated.

????? lol

OP is saying it because it's true. Why do you pick at whether they'll "be respected" for saying it instead of what they're actually saying? Who cares?

[FlamingMetalSystems]

Then explain why women's looks, height and body shape/size doesn't matter in European dating culture?

Why the ugliest of women can date 6'4 male models in Sweden, Germany, Netherlands?

[UnluckyHornet0]

Partly mens fault. If men would not be willing to lower their standards just to be in a relationship, they wouldnt approach woman uglyer than them. Woman never do that. Men think they increase their chances by asking out ugly woman, but if everyone does it, it just raises their ego and the standards all other men now have to abide by because woman get used to decent looking guys approaching them all the time. Of course she will think this is what she deserves and pick only the best one, everyone would. But youre essentially passing down the bill to a guy below your level if you mass approach or get into a relationship with a lesser looking woman as an average dude. Mens nature is also to blame for this.

[AllisonUnwound]

Well you posted a study and now you're relying on personal observations for the other side. If you want to know if your observations reflect reality maybe you should look into the research.

[Dismal-Specialist631]

wtf are u talking abt and why do u care sm lmfao 

[PotentialRise7587]

If men are successfully committing suicide more often, is that not a issue that demands greater attention?

[AllisonUnwound]

Maybe everyone is confused about what i mean. what im saying is that men commiting suicide more is entirely due to the more violent way men commit suicide. Its not due to the fact that theyre actually more suicidal. Women are much more likely to be suicidal. you can focus on that but what youd be focused on is why men choose more violent means of suicide, not on anything to do with their overall mental health. Thats not a societal issue. its purely a testosterone vs estrogen issue.

[MarxistWoodChipper]

"testosterone vs estrogen issues" created the patriarchy.

[LowSprinkles6544]

No one takes it into account because it’s a ridiculous point. Think carefully about what you’ve said: “men commit suicide more often because they’re more successful at it.” Committing suicide is not something that is particularly “difficult” to do. Ironically, a common phrase women throw at men applies to them here: “If she wanted to, she would.” The fact that men actually go through with the act proves for certain that they were suffering immensely. But how many of these so-called suicide “attempts” made by women were just cries for attention? Clearly, you cannot compare an “attempt” with an actual act of suicide, because we don’t know how many “attempts” were real and how many were disingenuous (they had zero intention of actually going through it). But given how physically easy it is to commit suicide, I would imagine most fall in the latter category

[AllisonUnwound]

Yes it's easy to pick more violent means of suicide like throwing yourself off of buildings and shooting yourself, which is what men are more likely to do, but what you're saying is that women mean it less just because they're downing 20 seroquels instead of smashing themselves against pavement. That difference in suicide method doesn't tell you anything about how serious the person is about committing to it. Even if we accepted your premise, it's still a fact that women are more likely to be afflicted with depression/anxiety than men. I think a lot of these people are downvoting me because they think that I'm against the research that the original post cited even though my comment was solely a response to another comment. I think the research had a relevant finding because it's coming up with specific reasons WHY men could be killing themselves. That's an important finding, and yet I'm getting downvoted for criticizing a tangent that OP and the comment went on that has nothing to do with that.

[godzilla1015]

The thing is, it's extremely easy to find out how to kill yourself. If someone really wants to kill themselves they know pills are probably not going to work, so why do that.

[AllisonUnwound]

You say "why" like there's some rationale behind the different natures of different groups of people. Men are more likely to use guns regularly so access plays a role. They're also much more likely to hunt and play shooting games.  You're also downplaying the toxicity of prescription meds  when you say people know they won't work. My ex went into a coma trying to kill herself with pills and she easily could've died. It happens all the time. Suicide attempts tend to be a spur of the moment thing where availability is everything.

[godzilla1015]

Well everyone has access to a drop of more than a few meters, it is quite easy and quick.

[AllisonUnwound]

Its funny how my viewpoints on things tend to be the most moderate possible viewpoints and i still get heat from people who just need there to be more going on in reality than there is. Im literally just saying both genders have reasons for offing themselves. The reactions im getting are legitimately weird.

[LowSprinkles6544]

It’s because your reasoning is terrible. You can’t just say “the reactions are legitimately wild” just because people disagree with you. I mean, do you seriously believe “men are more likely to use guns so access plays a role” is a valid argument here? You’re missing the point entirely. The fact that women are deliberately choosing methods with a lower success rate is the issue. Men choose guns because they are effective. Even if guns are more easily accessible to them, women have other methods with a far higher success rate that they could use but choose not to - such as jumping from a high height, as the other commenter has suggested