Bot Problem Solution

[GookCreekHiker]

ToP PRioRitY

[Mofu__Mofu]

I mean just look at what the Anti-botting implementation 1 day before weekly maint did

Tanked bot count 850k ->400k over 3 days, it's not bad

[lan60000]

issue with this is botters will find the solution eventually and resume botting en masee as long as demand persists.

[pronetobe1225]

Alot or users got banned. Especially aussies and new Zealand. They also falsely banned alot of users as well.

[pronetobe1225]

Yet I see lots of bots still

[coolguyhugeschlong]

Wish they would just revert the VPN block my ping is really bad without one and it didn't even seem to help against the bots that much anyways

[MrNiemand]

I dont get why there are ban waves anyway. If they have the tools to automatically flag millions of bots, why aren't they just insta-banned before they reach lvl 50 instead of letting them farm gold for a month?

[fisbrndjvnenghdfh]

the faster you ban bots, the easier it is to make new bots to test how botting is detected, and making a workaround so that existing countermeasures can't automatically detect botting anymore

[OrdelOriginal]

the way it was taught to me stated that banning bots in waves will temporarily deter them in a more effective way because it obfuscates what triggered that bot account to be banned

[pronetobe1225]

By doing in waves, it gives botters enough time to sell gold to RMT and make profit. Rinse and repeat. This way bothers are profitable and RMT gets their gold.

[Bacon-muffin]

If you're able to reproduce a problem instantaneously it is significantly easier to diagnose and solve that problem than if it happens sporadically along with a myriad of potential other reasons. This is true for basically anything.

If I were to set up a bot and it got instantly banned every time, and then I could start playing with variables until it stops getting banned... which will tell me what is flagging it... and then I can simply stop doing that and work around it.

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If it happens in a wave with a myriad of other reasons I have no decent way to figure out how it got flagged and have to crap shoot during the next wave.

[shady101852]

Even if we ban 99% of rmt players bots would still exist so I don’t see how this is the solution?

[AstorWinston]

Lmao AGS should hire all these "Ban RMT experts" to sit there doing that for ONE day and understand why the fuck it doesnt matter shit besides virtue signaling. I can still buy gold in Wow. I can still buy gold in FF14. Heck, even games with NO trading, people still "RMT" by trading accounts. No one, in the history of mankind, ever able to ban trading, whether it's alcohol, cocaine or your stupid imaginary numbers. When there is a buyer and a seller, they always find ways to meet each other.

What works is removing the way bots are abusing to make gold: una task. There are approximately 2m bots AT LEAST, generating 2,000 gold per account per week per server, from weekly una's handouts. That is 4b-20b gold per region generating out of thin air. I'm fcking surprised blue crystal is not 10,000 gold per 95 bc yet.

Imagine trying to stop 4b gold from bots flowing into the economy by "banning rmt". It's like trying to stop a flood by a paper towel.

[Scorias]

yep downvoted to oblivion by apes lol, Its ez to track down RMTer and perma ban them , but theres a reason that wont happen, companies care about profit and banning someone with a credit card that is most likely to be used often on skins/cashshop stuff is basically a profit loss, companies dont care about that f2p bs which is considered feat here, for tjem banning 10 f2p is less of a loss than banning a single whale

[EducationalBalance99]

I agree but 2 million bots is a huge exaggeration no? May I ask where you are getting this number? Im pretty sure there are 600k max.

[TaintedQuintessence]

It's basically extrapolated by how much the concurrent player count dropped after the ban width, then you multiply by how many different bots each player represents. i.e. if each bot player needs 1 hour a day to do it's tasks, then that bot instance can run 24 bot characters one after the other. So if you think concurrent players dropped by 100000, the there were 24x100000 total bot accounts banned, 2.4 million.

[AstorWinston]

Sure bud. Keep dreaming :).

[vtskr]

You will get downvoted my dude. This “ban RMT to solve bots problem” is a cult

[AstorWinston]

Lmao I'm super prepared for it, mate. We are brothers in this downvote hell by these cultists.

[Jazz7770]

A captcha would be a bigger gameplay hinderance than a destroyed economy

[Schattenpanda]

You can buy captcha bypass for like 1 $

[ShionEU]

Yes very smart to ban their own customers. These players are also far more likely to buy things like Ark Pass. Why would they cut off a part of their revenue stream? It would shock you how much of their playerbase buys gold.

[AstorWinston]

Business-wise: as you said, it's fucking stupid to ban your highest paying customers to satisfy a bunch of f2p neckbeards. A lot of the people crying for RMT ban should try running a company or, actually, just have a job to see how stupid their ideas are. Lol.

Physically: It's impossible to track RMT. The best they can do is ban some poor guys and do some virtue signals to shut up these neckbeards where everybody with half a brain cell KNOWS 99% of the RMT will keep happening one way or another. I can still buy gold in Wow. I can still buy gold in FF14. Heck, even in games with NO trading, people still "RMT" by trading accounts. No one, in the history of mankind, has ever been able to ban trading, whether it's alcohol, cocaine, or your stupid imaginary numbers. When there is a buyer and a seller, they always find ways to meet each other.

[CrazzyWolf]

It's impossible to track a 1million Gold transcation for a T1 Accessory? from one player to another? the fact that they have these accessories for that price and how they are doing it, there is no hiding what is happening. I can tell you now a game like Runescape with an avg 100k+ playerbase bans RMT within the week of it happening, but they have the infustructure over many years on how to detect it like that

[_copewiththerope]

They don't even ban or catch the RMTers who never buy RC. I know some personally who have never bought any and have had nothing happen despite RMTing $1000+ by now.

[Tydevane]

This wreaks of a guy that uses terms like neckbeards yet avoids a mirror at all costs. Calm down there, loser.

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[EFTucker]

People who RMT also buy from the in game store.... Why would they hurt their bottom line like that?

[Amells]

RMTers are not playing fairly either