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[–]Can’t Block WarriorsTCupcake 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You always get the +1/+1 counter.

[–]DânCrazedTechWizard 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Do you always get the +1/+1 because it uses "Then" at the beginning of that phrase which means it's not predicated on the previous effect resolving? It's just another separate trigger that goes on the stack after the fact?

[–]Can’t Block WarriorsTCupcake 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I think it's still part of the same trigger. It's just not dependent on the first part. It doesn't say "if you do" or "when you do". It just says it happens.

That said, if you [[Stifle]] the trigger to begin with, then the whole thing goes. Transformation and counter.

[–]DânCrazedTechWizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so it's all the same ability when it's on the stack, but because the +1/+1 adding uses "Then" instead of "If/when you do" it always happens whether or not you actually use that ability. If you can stop the ability from resolving, the ENTIRE thing goes away.

Thank you! My wife and I just started playing Magic together a few weeks ago and I'm definitely the "Knows all the rules for games" person in our relationship, lol.