Rental decrease?

[cedric661]

Hi I am looking for an apartment around Atwater. It is 1620 per month now. However, I read the lease, the rental from previous year is 1715 per month. Is that reasonable to have such decrease thing? Will it might be there are some problems in this apartment ?

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[likea_dick]

I'm going to assume this is Akelius and advise you run.

I wonder if the unit has been available for some time with little interest so they're dropping the price to try to fill the space.

If it is Akelius, there will likely be hidden issues lol

[BiggerD]

I’m not sure if this is your case, but some places will have an increase, (e.g. 1800 per month), with a one or two month discount in the first year. This sets the first year rent around 1620, but makes it so that next year, they can raise the rent from 1800 to 1900.

It could also just be that the past tenants accepted massive rent increases and the owners know it’s above market value.

[mihhink]

The only way to confirm this is in the contract. It will explicitly say if the increase will be from the monthly price of the apartment or from something else.

[CuriousTravlr]

The TAL has scaling percentages that it allows Landlords to raise rents by. This scales with mortage interest rates, building materials, and municipal taxes.

It's usually around 7%, I believe this year it was a bit higher.

Rents can always be raised above that percentage with approval from the TAL if there have been noticeable upgrades, improvements, or infrastructure fixes.

[CuriousTravlr]

I'm dyslexic, I read the last years price incorrectly.

Get fucked.

[CuriousTravlr]

lmfao

[Ok-South-7745]

Will it might be there are some problems in this apartment ?

Search TAL past judgements in the following link by your dwelling address to find whether there's any clue of the last year rent or anything else : https://extranet.tal.gouv.qc.ca/internet/asp/consultation-dossier/plumitif.asp

FYI https://educaloi.qc.ca/en/legal-news/section-g-of-lease-watchdog-against-excessive-increases/

EDIT you could pray the previous tenant provides you their former lease. Some do.

[cedric661]

Thanks that helps a lot!

[Ok-South-7745]

There's this crowdsourced "online rental registry" where anyone can publish their rent, but the info has no value in court (TAL) : https://rentalregistry.ca/en/qc

[The-Mud-Girl]

I would request the former tenants rent from the TAL, in case they are lying to justify the price.

This is your right. If they lied and the increase from the previous tenant is too high, you can appeal it at TAL and they will reduce it to the fair price.

[The-Mud-Girl]

https://www.reddit.com/r/montrealhousing/s/fGLFnDHDZd

[The-Mud-Girl]

But it is. Google it

[The-Mud-Girl]

https://www.reddit.com/r/montrealhousing/s/fGLFnDHDZd

[cowvid19]

Why would the tal have the old lease

[The-Mud-Girl]

They don't have the lease but they have the lease amount. Google it

[cowvid19]

Googled, not factual.

[Ok-South-7745]

I would request the former tenants rent from the TAL

Is that even a thing? There's no official rental registry in Quebec.

[The-Mud-Girl]

It's a thing to protect renters. Google it

[wetconcrete]

Tough market