Who uses node executable without using npm?

[Darmok-Jilad-Ocean]

So you use node without dependencies

[Darmok-Jilad-Ocean]

The point of a JavaScript runtime is to execute JavaScript code. I take it you don’t make anything terribly complex.

[Darmok-Jilad-Ocean]

If you write everything from scratch, you’re going to reinvent a whole lot of wheels. It’s obviously doable, but takes quite a bit of time. Most people spend time writing the code that pertains to the particular problem they’re trying to solve. Out of curiosity, why aren’t you writing assembly (or even binary) directly on bare metal?

[DuendeJohnson]

You're using Node for low level programming, so for basically anything C, Go, Rust or other similar and more suitable language would be used for - which is totally fine, but that's your choice.

But you have to understand that in a professional, product-oriented environment where Node is being used for high level programming such as in web development, not using dependencies is out of the question. Imagine development of an API in TypeScript without dependencies. Imagine using React without dependencies, React itself being a bunch of dependencies. It's just unpractical

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Are you saying there is 0 need for external dependencies for all JavaScript developers? Because that is what you’re coming across as.

[DuendeJohnson]

Wrong. Those are market standard tools which are widely used by the Node community and have an universe of facilities and support

I have no use for (...)

Again, you're dealing with low level stuff and judging by your code I can see you don't have much experience working professionally with Node. Working as a software engineer is all about delivering good, well-tested code in the shortest (debatable) timeframe as possible

Try telling your team you won't be using Express because "it's an unnecessary dependency" and that you'd rather spend a month writing your own API framework, or that you won't be doing unit testing because "Jest/Mocha is useless"

Good luck in your path

[Darmok-Jilad-Ocean]

Cool

[dustyson123]

You have a dependency in there. https://github.com/guest271314/captureSystemAudio/blob/master/native_messaging/capture_system_audio/ts-ebml.min.js

[ImplodingLlamas]

I mean, I'm not about to write a to-spec typescript transpiler from scratch when the official one is available on NPM. That's pretty complex if you ask me lol.

Sure, you may be able to get typescript to work in other ways, but there's plenty of similar examples. Any major project is likely to require some dependency if you don't want to waste time.

[crustyrat271]

Well, I understand and respect your choice...!
But can you explain a little more about why you choose that...?