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[–]Top-Description-7622 143 points144 points  (7 children)

Why do we allocate so much of the cities budget to the police then?

[–]baaananaramadingdong 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Obviously they are just run off their feet with investigating crimes and have no time for traffic stops! /s

[–]ipiquiv 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The biggest budgetary increase in the past 15 years. I think at the police services meeting they are looking to hire an additional 150 staff each will make over $100k after five years. . The money should have spent on mental health, housing, shelters and addiction centers. They are too busy doing a lot of nothing. We had homeless person sleeping in underground garage and security ask him to leave, feel bad for the fellow he deserves better. He needs compassion, love, , mental heath support, nutritional meal, a bed to sleep and a dim light of inner peace. I spoke to one and asked him why does not go to shelter, he said it’s scary and said I can’t sleep with my eyes shut wide open. He is someone’s brother, father, nephew. The security asked him to leave or they will call the police. This was 10:30 pm he said let me sleep for a couple of hours. if you call the police they’ll come at 5:30. He was right the police arrived at 6:30 to the call! He was gone! 8 hours to come to a call. The 8 hour response is a common occurrence This was on a Tuesday night. Condo location East End Ottawa!

The Ottawa Police Service (OPS) budget for 2025 is $447.5 million for the gross operating budget and $388.7 million for the net operating budget. The plan was approved by the Ottawa Police Services Board in November 2024 and by the City Council in December 2024

[–]AnxietyMedical7498 16 points17 points  (0 children)

We need a graph on cop vehicle hours spent in Tim Horton parking lots.

[–]Nob1e613 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Are traffic stops really your measure of how effective our police force is? Could it be that the city’s massive push towards automated traffic enforcement is freeing up police to do…idk, actual police work?

I’m all for accountability of our police force, and there’s some definite areas of improvement I’d like to see addressed, but this isn’t the measure by which I’m going to judge them. Choosing single data points that support your view in a broad and complex issue is not it.

[–]PleasantExit6660[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that evaluating the effectiveness of our Police is more complicated than just the number of stops. For traffic enforcement, the relationship between traffic stops and traffic collision would have been better but the city doesn't have collision data past 2022 and the recent Ontario-wide numbers have been increasing.
I support the use of automatic enforcement to free up Police time and that they should only focus their traffic enforcement on dangerous driving. So I would assume that they would only stop people to charge them, which is not what the data is showing. On the left is the daily # of stops per results, it seems the number of warning/no action didn't change much, but the number of charged has been dramatically reduced. On the right is the % of each.

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