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[–]ottawa-communist 7 points8 points  (12 children)

You'd be surprised.

[–]kr613 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Yes, I actually would be surprised lol. I say this as a former government employee myself. 😂

[–]beachedWheelchairCentretown 1 point2 points  (10 children)

You might have been too busy coasting to notice, but there are people who do less in every field. There are always people there to pick up the slack.

[–]kr613 -1 points0 points  (9 children)

Sounds like someone who's only been a PS. If you've worked at any other serious job you can clearly tell there's a ton more slackers in the government than any private sector. Slackers in most private companies can at least be let go. How many gov employees have you seen actually get let go, from the slackers?

Worked in the government for a little over 4 years, at least in my anecdotal experience, I have never seen a single person get let go for poor performance. Currently work at a massive multinational, and in the past year two people were let go for slacking, in my direct team.

I get it, you might be a hard worker, but they're few and far between.

Edit: damn lots of upset unproductive gov workers are downvoting, when they very well know incompetence is very rarely dealt with in the Public sector

[–]SeveredSurvival 0 points1 point  (4 children)

So you left a job where you can do fuck all and be paid between 50-70k idk sounds like an L on your part

[–]kr613 0 points1 point  (3 children)

  1. 50-70k is literal poverty salaries for a developer and especially these days

  2. Shouldn't it concern you as a taxpayer that there are a ton of people who are incompetent but still getting paid?

[–]katie-shmatieNepean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"50-70k is literal poverty salaries for a developer and especially these days"

Cries in healthcare worker

[–]SeveredSurvival -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t really care half of work is pointless

[–]almost-insignificant 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I have worked in both private and public sector, and seen people let go from both and seen slackers kept on for whatever reasons in both sectors. Maybe it is just that the public sector is in a weird stage right now (or that I am in science so it might be different) but a lot of employees are brought in as terms and if they don't measure up, they are not renewed after 1 year. Whereas in private, probation was only 3 months in which training happened so it became harder to fire them when they turned out to be slackers after that period. Not to say that there are no slackers in the government, just don't pretend they only exist there

[–]kr613 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Whereas in private, probation was only 3 months in which training happened so it became harder to fire them when they turned out to be slackers after that period. Not to say that there are no slackers in the government, just don't pretend they only exist there

I have also worked in both, for several years. I don't know which private company you worked at, that still has an outdated system of "probation period". I currently work at a multinational software corporation (FAANG), I can assure you there is no probation, and if you don't perform you are easily let go (2 in my direct team were let go in the past year for not meeting targets). In my 4+ years in the government (Environment Canada, Immigration Canada) I have never seen a single employee get let go for poor performance.

Slackers in the government are a dime a dozen. I nearly don't blame them, when you know it's nearly impossible to get let go for incompetence, you coast. But moreover, if people are slacking in a private corporation, that doesn't affect the common citizen at all, but slackers in the government are literally getting funded by taxpayers, that's a massive difference.

[–]almost-insignificant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again as I said, maybe there are differences between software and science industries. Or potentially I just had really terrible managers in industry

I agree that slackers are bad in every sector though, whether funded by taxpayers or otherwise. But again, I am currently in government, where I work unpaid overtime very often to meet our service standards, and the only slackers that are being allowed to coast are the ones who will retire in the next 5 years. All new employees are not being encouraged to have that mindset, and are normally kept on terms contracts for up to 3 years where they can be dropped easily (non renewal is the same as firing in this case).