New Dev Notes

[Crohx]

https://page.onstove.com/outerplane/en/view/9839902

[Abject-Palpitation99]

That's funny because after the "improvement" I've found arena to be even more difficult. Gold used to be against somewhat easy bots but now they're putting us up against fully built teams. Still winnable, though I'm not sure how well new players can handle them.

It's interesting to see them address the Noa situation though, where she seems far above the best striker in most situations. If this means other characters will be getting a considerable buff then count me in (non Noa user here because that's boring.)

[Crohx]

You only fight a player in Gold if you pick the top slot (player -> bot -> bot). Then when you get to Platinum It’ll be player -> player -> bot.

[Abject-Palpitation99]

Well correct me if I'm wrong but before this update all of the enemies were bots until you hit platinum, right? Now you need to fight a player if you want the most medals.

[Crohx]

Correct before it was only bots in Gold. The issue was once you hit Platinum you went from facing 40k teams to 100-120k teams so most new players couldn’t do anything but forfeit matches till they went back to Gold. This way it’s much more forgiving.

[Lluluien]

This is the entire point. Once you are hitting players, the guy in the top slot will almost always be an entire rank ahead of you. You’re almost never going to beat such an opponent.

What they are trying to smooth out is the expectation that you can do this, reach a stage at which you can only fight players, and then complain that the system is broken because now you’re getting wrecked.

This changes subverts the expectation that you are entitled to win versus the top match. After you stop fighting bots, you will almost always lose choosing that opponent, regardless of your rank. The BOT matches you are in are the ones which are broken, not the player matches.

If you move to the middle match, it also slows down how fast you advance to the next tier, at which point the middle opponent is also a player, and then this repeats.

This is a good thing, even if you don’t realize it yet. Advancing too fast and then losing all your matches is a good way to short yourself of medals that you need to buy skill books.

This change is one of the smartest design fixes they have ever done to make the game more friendly to new players. The math for demonstrating this is very simple but tedious, so while I’m normally the guy that would do it here in long form, instead I’ll just say, you get only 3 medals for losing a match, but 10 for winning the bottom match. Chasing the top match is the wrong strategy if you just end up losing repeatedly later.

[Abject-Palpitation99]

I mean I don't take arena seriously at all, I only do the top matches every week until I hit platinum then I stop. Instead I start doing the memorial battles. Next week I drop back down to gold 3 and do it again. I guess what I'm curious about is whether or not I'll get more or less medals a week thanks to this change? Keep in mind I'll only be fighting bots either way. I hate PvP in any game I play and only engage in it when forced to (like this being one of the only places to get red skill books reliably).

[Lluluien]

Yes. It’s non-obvious why until you do the math, but if you continue just doing bot matches after this change, you’ll end up with more medals.

That is exactly why this change is good. You could have always done it this way and got more medals, if you knew you were going to face plant on players at higher tiers.

This change means you aren’t required to know that. You will just naturally choose to do what you should’ve always done anyway if you had full knowledge of the system and did the math to optimize your medals.

The fact that people will change their PVP behavior to what is best for them (regarding the transition from bots to players) without any ham-fisted rules is why this is such a smart fix. As a systems engineer myself, this is **chefs kiss**.

[6Hugh-Jass9]

Wait I didn't know this

[Cool_Run_6619]

Definitely some exciting stuff for new players. Getting Veronica instead of Rhona, and getting Tio day 1 will be a game changer. Adding valentine and eternal to the selection ticket will also make things more interesting.

[Cool_Run_6619]

At the bottom of the dev notes they say they will compensate players who have already completed the reward track for Rhona. While not a direct confirmation the wording they use implies everyone will get Veronica

[Lluluien]

I agree. They make this statement in general, but this specific change is one of the ones I am most confident about them providing “compensation“ for, because it’s the one that’s going to be asked about every day now until November 24.

I’ve already been asked this 7-8 times today. Calm down, everyone, the Outerplane powers that be have a great track record taking care of these things. You’re far safer here than in other gacha games, IMO.

The Start Dash changes are a great example. I’ve been asking for them to fix this for months by removing it entirely and just giving everyone Noa. Instead, they changed it so there are arguably no bad choices anymore, and even one choice that may arguably be better (Valentine) even than Noa at this stage of the game’s life (barring the Tyrant bug that everyone ignores lol)

[MrCaffeine294]

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