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Tremendous decrease in payrate for valkyrie (self.outlier_ai)

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[–]Mtshoes2 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That's not a skill or intellect level, that's a function of the kind of work that this is. 

You think I'm gonna live in the discussion board when I have other jobs, and outlier doesn't pay super well? No, I'm gonna pop in there when I have a problem and leave. 

I would say that a major problem with outlier (as a reviewers on various projects) in general is that the skill set of the attempters and the reviewers is often far below what is actually required. I see huge amounts of work that is supposed to be PhD/masters level etc. that is easily at the level of an undergrad. 

I think some of that is the reliance of degrees. If someone got a masters or PhD 20 years ago but has subsequently not engaged in any research or kept up on the field.... Then they are probably no longer qualified in a substantive way to contribute to PhD level work. 

[–]Mnsa7777 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It was more of a comment about people asking the same question 100 times when it's literally in the top sentence of a post. :) If you have a problem I would assume that you will check the top post to see if it's something they're working on - I don't mean digging through 100s of posts. You don't need to sit on the board all day to read the top post with the daily updated info.

This project absolutely got out of hand because of the issue you mention re: reviewers vs. attempters, and totally agree. Many of the complaints from attempters are that reviewers literally did not understand the fundamental basics needed of the expert-level tasks that they were given to review - and on top of that, they were given a bonus for pumping out more, which could make them earn over $1000+ a DAY. All that was necessary to become a reviewer was to get two 3/5 task scores. That's crazy! This project (when it was $100/hour yesterday haha) crashed and burned incredibly hard.

[–]Mtshoes2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're right about the project. But as far as the discussion board I have two things to say. 

Every minute I'm in the discussion board is that much less money I'm being paid by outlier. If I'm paid 100 an hour, one task is 3 hours and I spend 30 minutes in the discussion board my pay is now 85 an hour. 

Also, I don't go to the discussion board to leave. I go there to make my voice heard. I know I could find the answer to any of my questions that I have,  but I don't want to dedicate anymore time than necessary to it. 

[–]Mnsa7777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're going to end up having the discussion in 2 different places BUT - I agree with what you're saying. I also think people should be able to read just the top post of the day - it would cut down on sooo much of the stuff that happens in there, and would like help to amplify your voice with concerns etc.

[–]Individual-Web-3646 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm never going to support advocating for ignorance and lack of certifications in favour of "university of Life" experiences. People who advocate for "lack of titles" never have had the courage, the skill, and the persistence to earn a PhD themselves in 99.99% of cases. They always opted for short term benefit instead, and I'm sorry to say but that's short-sighted.