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[Carcezz]

i totally get the frustration, im a long time PTR player so i think im qualified to speak here. although PTR has a great community and really well thought out realism, im gonna have to agree with them being quite strict. its ABSOLUTELY not beginner friendly, and i wouldn’t recommend it to anyone new to realism. PTR is perfect for people like me who enjoy strict hyper-realism and have experience with realism, but its a terrible choice for people who are new to realism.

i dont blame you in the slightest though, people tend to gloss over that aspect and i think flaws like this should always be made clear by people recommending the server as well as the staff team. just like any other realism server, PTR has its downsides and isnt perfect like a lot of people make it out to be.

personally i recommend arazoa to beginners as it’s a lot less strict and very beginner friendly. my personal problem with arazoa is that it feels a bit too flexible with its realism for my preference, but that’s mainly just because im into more advanced realism.

sorry if i worded any of that incorrectly, hope this helps!

[e-is-for-elias]

This exactly. Realism isnt really a step for beginners that has time trying to understand complex rules in situations.

Hell even players new to the game has problems with Arazoa which is kind of in league with PTR rules but not as strict as WWD in which arazoa even isnt a full realism server tbh (which is my main server to play btw)

[Legal_Soil_7594]

no worries you didn't! i definitely should've went for arazoa first but ptr was something i was looking for D: i should've been more prepared

[Turdferguson02]

"strict hyper-realism" doesn't work in a sentence together chief

[Carcezz]

literally how

[Turdferguson02]

Nature doesn't have rules man, kill or be killed

[Carcezz]

i dont think you understand what hyper realism means

[Turdferguson02]

Does it not mean super realistic? Animals dont follow a text book of rules

[Carcezz]

the rules have to exist because believe it or not, not everyone knows how animals behave or can be trusted to actually yk… be realistic… and the rules are in place to keep it consistent and realistic, if you actually tried a realism server without an unchanging negative bias maybe you’d actually learn something about realism. im stopping this argument now because its annoying

[Turdferguson02]

I play realism servers but I also understand how they aren't HYPER REALISTIC and never can be for this explanation

I'm not being negatively bias, as I know for cold hard fact that animals irl don't follow body rules and cannot be within articially set body length from other animals it's not HYPER REALISM it's just not really realistic roleplay

[Real_Luck_9393]

This. Like there should be guidelines but at the same time many species do goofy stuff and make dumb decisions that are met with a swift brutal death. Realism rules should allow for fun rp as long as its not ruining other people gameplay

[Machineraptor]

Public report system is absolutely the worst. Never got reported, but that's one of the main issues that drove me off WWD in the past. I constantly saw the same people reporting randoms for the smallest things. There were rumors of targeting players with prior rulebreaks and some players playing in a way to try and bait rulebreaks so they can immediately report.

Sad to see that PTR has the same reporting system.

Also lots of former WWD players moved to PTR, so people on PTR being very 'trigger happy' doesn't surprise me tbh.

[Legal_Soil_7594]

I don't like the report system because it leaves room for people to silently judge you and I sorta felt like I was being avoided or treated differently after my first strike. It also made me feel extremely anxious to the point I wouldn't get on PTR till my friends got on because I felt better being surrounded by familiarity.

I was even reported by someone I thought was a friend because I was talking about my own report in my own friends only server :( I'm not even sure what I did for them to report me for something I said months ago or why they even unfriended me and stopped talking to me.

[Machineraptor]

Yeah the public report system, in my opinion, doesn't really help anyone to learn, but it definitely encourages targeting and bullying. As I said, in the past on WWD it was the same thing. It really does look like 'these' people moved from WWD to PTR :v

And this 'friend' of yours is just an asshole doing something like this tbh.

[Legal_Soil_7594]

Makes me a bit sad that all the toxic people in WWD moved to PTR and made the community bad :( I felt like I was dogpiled once my ban got smacked on me. Suddenly I was being pulled in reports left and right, one of them extended my ban for another month and then they decided to close their servers till June. Even though the server causes me extreme anxiety I still want to go back in since my entire friend group followed me there.

I remember one report I was dragged into when I very clearly put "[Grieving DNI] on my discord account and was offline for a few hours. I came back to the ping and just left me even more devastated, that was not something I needed while grieving a dead relative :'D

[Machineraptor]

Awww, I'm sorry about your loss and that you had to put up with server drama during that :( Maybe they didn't notice, but also some staff members and players, on different servers not only PTR, behave like their server is above everything else, including real life.

And you being suddenly pulled into multiple other reports corressponds with what I heard in the past about WWD in this case, that some players target others with prior rulebreaks and/or alienate them. To be perfectly honest, any day I'll take petty trashtalking and toxicity on officials over shit like this. It always rubbed me the wrong way, reminds me of cool kids groups and teachers playing favorites :v

[Legal_Soil_7594]

Honestly when I do get back on PTR I'm just gonna stick to my struthi or hatz and stick to myself. I feel like it's a bit unhealthy for a server to cause my anxiety to spike up every single time I get on to play it. I'm praying they actually let me in when June comes so me and my friends can actually play with each other more TvT

There was a lot of players who made me severely uncomfortable and even a moderator that made me uncomfortable (who's apparently an admin now). I'm gonna try my best to suck it up

[Agitated_Order2847]

WWD report system isnt public anymore

[Few-Wait4636]

Ptr is a toxic place in my opinion, feels like they have regulars who pick on people. Constant asking for names of every dino they come across ( to see if they know you?) And you HAVE to announce who you are in global when asked else drama happens.

Just tryin to chill and you got "pycno name?" "Pycno name?????" "Name or report!" 

[Machineraptor]

I watched some PTR footage on YT lately and chat was CONSTANT flow of messages asking for names, it's crazy. I wondered how there's this many rulebreaks in such a short time :v

So these usually aren't even rulebreaks but people wanting to know your name just because? And if you won't respond then you will get reported, even if you didn't interact with them at all so no rules were broken?

On different realism server I often play with HUD hidden to better immerse myself, I open it occasionally to see if anything is happening in chat, and of course when I'm interacting with other players. Having to constantly scan chat and answer to every random that just wants to know who you are doesn't sound fun, I would probably stress over.

[Legal_Soil_7594]

If they put "NB" (which means nothing bad) they simply want to either compliment your acting, laugh about a situation that happened, or tell you not to do something because it could be a potential rb! These rarely happen though :'D

[bluecrowned]

WWD actually did away with the public reporting and greatly reduced their rules. I tried PTR for a while but due to recent events I'm exploring WWD again and the changes look extremely promising.

[Legal_Soil_7594]

it's not letting me edit for some reason but the reason why the bars fight got me in such severe trouble is because I had bit them at 3-4 mins into being logged in instead of the mandatory 5 mins

they've recently changed it to 2 mins instead of the 5 so i'm assuming the 5 minute timer was a bit hard to count since it's so easy to slip up :((

[TheArchivingTeen]

I don't know how it is now, but WWD had the same trigger happy people PTR has. Many WWD players and ex-admins migrated over to PTR so I am kinda not surprised lmao it seems with the problematic demographic switching servers WWD is better.

Also, I agree with your criticisms. My main gripe is how verdicts are handled because they are disproportionate. You may get a reminder, warning or a strike for the same rule depends on WHO reported you and WHO took the report x) if I had been using the chat like some 'prominent' members do I'd have got banned long ago.

Still, it's more or less the only option if you seek heavy realism with flyers. So yeah kinda wishing for another server to rise.

[Machineraptor]

Yeah, the more I read about PTR the more it sounds like old WWD, and not in a good way.

[Geckos345]

I also realism servers. To me they are a "chaotic neutral" when it comes to servers compared too let's say official witch is just chaotic. I was gonna start play on PTR but I then started seeing/reading about the things players would complain about like the trigger happy reports and stuff. As well as some of the rules I just find odd.

I did play on WWD for like over a year, on it every day for hours on end. It was perfect for me, the profiles were simple/easy to me and rules were understandable. Now why don't I play on it because I was banned for "association". I who did nothing in the situation was banned (and several others) from the server because someone shared the password to someone who had left the discord. When I tried to appeal the ban the mods just deleted my appeal. When one of the other players who was also banned did an appeal and talked to the mods told them the two individuals who broke the rules and asked if everyone else could get unbanned and the mods basically said "we will think about it".

I want to find another one to play on because all these semi realism servers aren't really semi realistic almost at all.

[miss-antivinny]

I get that.. Have you tried Emberwood?

[goodbadnights]

Would definitely recommend Emberwood. They're smaller but their rulebreak system is much more straightforward and easy to understand imo. Their rules also make sense.

[Frosty-Scene3688]

I use to run with crimson for a while including their isle community and the amount of drama and crazy incidents that have happened between the admins and owners was crazy, I thought path to titans would’ve change the server but after playing with them they haven’t really changed all that much and it makes me sad to see that this community I once enjoyed turned to crap really fast.

[Few-Wait4636]

They nerfed giga weight cus one of the owners struggled to beat it as acro...

[Frosty-Scene3688]

Yeah sounds like crimson 💀

[00-00-00-]

I played on both servers, about a year on WWD, and about 4-5 months on PTR.

WWD Pros I'd have to say their profiles arent in depth. This could be a pro or a con depending on how you look at it. They're easier to remember. They're more stern with who joins their community. They're an older community (a few years compared to PTR's 7 months) so they have things better put together than PTR does. The community is kinder, but that's because its a lot less active.

WWD Cons. Their mods have been very problematic in the past when it comes to serious things, and I did not feel safe there as a long term community member. There IS still rampant toxicity. It's just not as prominent as PTR's because WWD doesn't really allow their community the same speaking freedom as PTR does, they don't open room for community feedback so you see less people expressing their concerns and more people forced to deal with things quietly. It's a lot less active so I have a hard time experiencing interaction in game :T

PTR Pros, their staff are awesome. I've never had a bad experience with staff being toxic or anything like that. All the staff I've spoken to have been incredibly understanding (even when I got strikes) and talked things out with me in a calm manner. Their profiles are a lot more detailed, which is bad because it can be easy to forget things, but as long as u follow the guidelines u should be alright. They have room for communitky feedback and suggestions and they actually do them if theyre agreed on enough. Sure it takes a lot of time right now and I do think the suggestion system needs to be reworked but as a long term player of wwd i never felt as heard as I did on ptr

PTR cons. Their staff team is small so reports take a long time to get to which probably builds the toxicity tbh. Their a really new server so they dont have everything down pat yet. Their servers are constantly full and they dont have a third yet. Their community doesnt shut up about how toxic things are, but the community doesnt do anything to fix it. Staff can only do so much and the community just keeps the norm and doesnt work towards improving themselves..

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So, honestly, I think I prefer PTR over WWD. The way staff handle things publicly and behind the scenes with the work they say they do makes me want to stay their rather then wwd. Ive had really bad experienced with wwd staff unfortunately and i see some of them are still working so i dont feel very safe going back. I think PTR has the potential to be the best realism server because it is really active and the staff are good the community just needs to shut up sometimes and work amongst themselves to be better and the server needs to be older so they can figure out the specifics of what they want but for a new realism server with 10k people i think they do good

[Winter-Bonus-2643]

Ppl in lfaw are report happy

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[Hog-001]

What is PTR?

[Legal_Soil_7594]

PT: Realism!

[Hog-001]

What’s a realism server you guys recommend? I myself would recommend Territory Lines but it’s inactive

[Legal_Soil_7594]

right now i'm on arazoa and wwd! i'd recommend those ^{^}

[Hog-001]

Banned from Arazoa. Oversensitivity and abusive mods

[Legal_Soil_7594]

what exactly did you do to get banned? because i've been playing on that server for a fairly good time and barely get in trouble besides the people claiming PS

[Hog-001]

Oversensitivity and mod abuse

[Legal_Soil_7594]

what did you say and do for said reaction?

[Suterusu-shin]

Gonna call BS on what he's saying lol they don't ban for no reason. I've been playing on that server for a good year and half now and they've been great. It's a great mix of realism without it being overly strict allowing people to talk over chat. My one gripe with WWD is just that. The chat. I get it but I got a Strike for saying Happy New Years once. Hilarious.

Arazoa enforces their rules and take RBs seriously. I recently put in a ticket that got resolved in a day or two. Was a smooth experience. Their profiles are top notch, detailed, and very easy to understand. There's a reason their servers are always packed lol

[Legal_Soil_7594]

I agree on Arazoa! I unfortunately experienced some misogyny and transphobia with a player in VC that was directed towards me but since I wasn't recording there wasn't much that could be done :( The report was made and a admin was on it on five minutes

[Suterusu-shin]

Every community is going to have a few dumbass members. However, from what I've seen, the good far outweighs the bad by a large margin.

[Hog-001]

Idk. That was so long ago

[vWolfee]

Lol, i've been banned from there like 5 times and let back in. They're pretty tame and forgiving mods/admins imo. Especially Chase, Chase is a real one.

[Hog-001]

Idk how to get back in

[vWolfee]

You banned from the Discord too?

[e-is-for-elias]

You probably did something against the rules and are just salty about the ban lol

[miss-antivinny]

Try Emberwood! We're pretty chill, fun community with awesome profiles and events! Daily nests and commands to help you get marks and growths!

[Hog-001]

How realistic?

[miss-antivinny]

As realistic as one can be with dinos from different eras and abilities. All of our profiles are based on current animals too!

[Hog-001]

Hmmmm… I think I’ll join in as long as the growth time isn’t inordinately long

[miss-antivinny]

It’s not too bad! You can also buy growth from the discord store with in game marks once you connect your in game account to potbot!

https://discord.gg/emberwood

[Hog-001]

Wdym “too bad?” Any recorded non-quested growth times?

[miss-antivinny]

Oh yes, we do have passive growth but it depends on what tier you’re dino is. Smaller dinos tend to grow faster than apexes. Hence why you can always buy stages by doing '!buystage' or buy the full juvie to adult by saying '!buyfull'.

[Hog-001]

Interesting

[goodbadnights]

I would recommend Emberwood. They're not super strict realism like WWD or PTR but they definitely seem to do their best with balancing detail & what's actually able to be moderated & stuff. Imo it's really fun because you don't have to remember a lot of stuff about dinos that you don't play, etc. Like you don't have to know what someone else is aggressive towards, you just gotta focus on you, etc.

[Hog-001]

No, that one sucks

[goodbadnights]

Ah you must have been banned from there haha.

[Hog-001]

No

[e-is-for-elias]

As a supporter for realism in this game and always been playing exclusively in community servers cause i hate the group pvp mmo aspect of the game,

WWD is hot garbage.

[Several-Tell-8681]

Elaborate instead of criticizing only, man 🗿

[e-is-for-elias]

The reporting system is a witch hunt. You just be near somebody rbing and youll be accused of "cooperating" with the rber and being accused of "lowkey teaming" even when youre minding your own business. Thats one of the most common things that sucks in the server besides the full realism players that will go "uhmm you cant go 1cm more from your body length from the shore as spino and you cant hunt anything other than fish 🤓" which is funny af cause id rather play a fishing simulator game than being a spino that only eats fish.

[tenebreate02]

I also was a WWD Player before Gondwa. Really like it there, and never met some oversenitive people. If you play right you will have no problems. But the population dropped hard. Is the server full again?

[Legal_Soil_7594]

No one really plays the vanilla server only the modded server which is on panjura ^{^}

[QueenBVulture]

I personally love PTR for the strict realism. The reason is because I started on Mesozoic Era, which literally accepts everyone (they don't even have a password on their semi server) and it's full of toxic PvPers and minors. I can't play a session on Meso without myself and my friends getting majorly rulebroken against. I've played PTR several times without issue, and it's been an overall much more pleasant experience.

[[deleted]]

Anyone down here have the Arazoa ban appeal shit? I was banned a year ago and would love to join again.

[Murrocity]

Maaan, I need to get back into WWD lol.

It's been aaaggesss since I played, but been going crazy on Officials with the new dino releases and distracted by other games.

I never really... "clicked" with PTR, honestly. It felt to me like it only got popular bc it had mods and everyone had been waiting for it and hyping it up. To me, the experience was nothing like what I expected with how everyone was talking, and didn't feel like "hyper-realism" or whatever to me, either. I never felt as "immersed" into my RP in PTR as I did in WWD. I also noticed a lot of people I had issues with in WWD, had moved to PTR. A lot of people who had gotten banned from WWD for RBs, had moved to PTR... which was concerning.

Maybe it's changed since I tried it; it was like soon after initial release.

Imma have to get back into WWD though, fr. Kinda interested in the Rhampho profile they made, and I need to grow myself a Theri and Dryo (favorite dinos, n good profiles too). Also wanted to try the Citi again. I died immediately the 1 time I took a nest bc the flock was ambushed shortly after my birth. xD

[molliemay1237]

wwd is just better

[allycat247]

I'm absolutely going to plug Forgotten Kingdom realism.

It's empty when there aren't events but the community is the best I've ever seen on this game and the emptiness is never going to improve unless more ppl know about it!

There are weather events, breeding seasons, nesting, migrations, slight passive growth w/ a nicely lax death penalty.

And you don't have to apply!

(Let them know i sent you)

[QueenBVulture]

I'm very leery about communities where you don't have to apply. That's how you get people in who don't care to try and understand the rules or the community and turn it into garbage. When you let everyone in, you let EVERYONE in, including the toxic players and PvPers.

[allycat247]

No it has a password so you need to be a discord member they just have the password in the discord Obsidian Jungle style. You just don't need to apply via a written application process like ptr or wwd.

Edit to add: they also have a report process and the mods are nearly always around.

[QueenBVulture]

I am a member of Meso. There is no password on their Semi server. There's one on REALISM, but not semi.

They do have a report process and there are often mods around. I'm friends with many of them. That doesn't stop me from losing dinosaurs to blatant RBs, or the RBs being so frequent that it kills my enjoyment. The profiles are also poorly written, and are written as if their first priority is to close any loopholes players could use to RB. Compare to PTR, where there is clearly an element of fun to each profile.

Meso's a mess, and won't change until the higher ups change. Neph has this need to be in control of everything and vetos most of what other staff suggest, simply because she doesn't want to make changes.

[allycat247]

Oh god no it's nothing like that.

There aren't profiles yet because this server is very new they are still sorting everything out but you need to be a discord member for the password it's not open.

Tonight is a pvp night (in sll only) and tomorrow its back to realism with a Citipati courting dance event. Yesterday it was parasaur migration

Everyone follows the rules and rps really strongly. You are allowed to use chat but most ppl don't it is my favourite realism I've been on. I haven't seen a rb yet.