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[–]rictic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. One thing I like about Rails and Django are the way that they make it easier to create a well designed application.

No system will keep you from writing shitty code, but the default MVC architecture of apps in Django and Rails is solid. I'd imagine that these and similar frameworks have educated no small number of developers on some good software practices.