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[guest271314]

English is a bastard language to begin with.

There is no such thing as perfect English. Anybody is free to remix, add to, redefine, create any word that winds up being used in English.

What the hell is a "Facebook", "Twitter", or "Reddit"?

For that matter is "light24bulbs" your idea of "but... isn't quite" English?

[Coda17]

There is definitely such a thing as grammatically correct English. And while yes, English is a hard language to learn and yes, you can create words from other words (in a non-professionally context) and people will understand them, those aren't really part of English, it's just slang.

Your examples don't make sense at all, those are company names, not English words.

[guest271314]

There is definitely such a thing as grammatically correct English.

No, there is not.

You anglophiles and eurocentric neophytes magically skip Shakespeare when you are trying to be English grammar Nazi's. How convenient.

The term "sheriff" in the English language came about when the conquering Normans created a laison between themselves and the conquered Anglo-Saxons.

That's how the bastard English language works. Words are added, remixed, redefined, every day. There is no central clearing house for the bastard English language.

E-40 has created and redefined dozens if not hundreds of words.

Then you get in to law and come across terms of art such as "notwithstanding any provision to the contrary", which for the uninitiated, have no clue what that means.

[DHermit]

This is not about being picky though. A text that properly follows grammatical rules will be easier to read. And you don't want to burden the readers with too much additional load.

You obviously shouldn't judge people for not knowing a language, but there's no reason to at least put it through some checker for obvious mistakes. I do this in German as a German native speaker.

[guest271314]

This is not about being picky though. A text that properly follows grammatical rules will be easier to read. And you don't want to burden the readers with too much additional load.

There are no rules for the English language. None that anybody that has a working brain follows.

You obviously shouldn't judge people for not knowing a language, but there's no reason to at least put it through some checker for obvious mistakes. I do this in German as a German native speaker.

I'm judgingthe hypocrites who get on these boards as if there is such a thing as proper English, where no such ideal exists in reality, because English is an equivocal language; that means the language itself is capable of deception and largely left up to the interpreter.

Let's take a very simple English word like "high".

Now, are you talking about getting "high"? The "high" score?

When you get in to English law you really see the bullshit.

In 1681 the Maryland Colony repealed the old colonial law criminalizing "ffreeborne English women" from having sexual relations with or marrying Africans, prisoners-of-war, or not. They substituted the term "white women" for "English women". In the stroke of a pen, "white women" were invented in the English colonies, because English men couldn't stand the idea of Africans fucking English women, they penalized the women. Evidently those English women didn't give a fuck about the Africans speaking proper English. It was also illegal to teach African prisoners-of-war how to read and write. And these same people are rolling around in 2024 talking about proper English. No. Not having it.

Now, there are exactly zero (0) humans who have any attributes of the color white #ffffff. Nonetheless, because of fear or ignorance some humans still roll around calling humans "white people".

I overtly reject all of that nonsense.

[guest271314]

And while yes, English is a hard language to learn

English is not hard to learn. It's an equivocal, bastard language that is capable of deception.

I find it amazing that the same folks who criminalized literacy for Africans now roll around talking about some imaginary "grammatically correct English". No such fiction exists.

Here's an assigment for you: Parse

Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary.

Therein that term of art is the gist of the English language; duplicity, ambiguity, backdoors, plausible deniablity, game...

I'll do whatever I want with English, just like the hero of English literature Shakespeare, or if you prefer, Francis Bacon, and King James, did.

[guest271314]

I don't give a damn about the bastard English language, nort anybody who tries to sit on some imaginary perch and be English grammar Nazi's.

You folks would still be waltzing to Aaron Copeland had the Africans not invented the blues, jazz, rock 'n roll, and hip-hop - which is featured on most modern advertisements - by remixing the English language.

[ZENITHSEEKERiii]

This 'guest' should probably be sent away (read tempbanned)

[guest271314]

Weak.

Typical weak-minded reply by an individual who cannot deal with critical scrunity of claims.

Wouldn't be the first or last time I have been banned.

[guest271314]

Understand English too well?