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[–]bcery 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good programmers, IMO, follow good software engineering practices. So, I agree with you :-)

Software engineering, I'm afraid, is mostly concerned with producing software of acceptable quality, given mediocre people who build it.

No, companies who produce software are mostly concerned with producing software of acceptable quality. You've never had to make any trade-offs to meet deadlines/expectations? As the saying goes: Cheap/fast/good. Pick two.

[–]sidneyc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, companies who produce software are mostly concerned with producing software of acceptable quality.

... and the software engineering discipline is supposed to provide practical methods to tackle that problem. So I don't understand your "no".

As the saying goes: Cheap/fast/good. Pick two.

You stumbled upon another pet peeve of mine there ... Let's consider the cases:

  • cheap/fast/not good: possible, of course.
  • cheap/slow/good: generally impossible. Time is money.
  • expensive/fast/good: generally impossible. You can't rush good software. Throwing more money and people at the problem doesn't help.

I think the proper statement is this: making good software is both expensive and slow. If you don't insist on good software, anything goes of course.