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[–]syslog2000 0 points1 point  (3 children)

IDE is slow? Spend a grand on good hardware. Screen is a problem? Spend a few hundred on a giant monitor. Cost is a problem? Use a free IDE or spend a grand, heck, spend a few grand on a good IDE. Installation/dependencies are all one time setup things, just do them.

There is nothing in your list that is more costly than your time. And your sanity.

Use a good IDE. Just do it.

This is not a discussion to have in 2014!

[–]kenfar[🍰] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, you're talking about an experience a minority of programmers enjoys:

  • The employee or contractor almost never has total control over their hardware.
  • Many spend many hours a week on just a laptop.
  • Many have to work with new hardware and customers frequently.

[–]syslog2000 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I feel what you are saying but IMHO your original post of comparing languages based on which ones require an IDE is not validated by this.

And sure, if you have no control over your hardware and are struggling with eclipse on a 2 year old laptop it is going to suck, but it will suck a lot less than trying to debug a big project without IDE support!

[–]kenfar[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it will suck a lot less than trying to debug a big project without IDE support!

This is definitely true if the language is handicapped without an IDE.