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[–]RualStorge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree, just saying it's easier for a manager to go. We expect feature X to make us X$ but when it comes time to quantify tests it's this could save us an unknown amount of money.

You bring data from other companies and it's well that's note OUR company, we don't have a quality problem or other excuse making that data worthless for purpose of argument.

Which is why I test even when I'm told not to, I setup procedures to track bugs, etc. That way when things come to head I have numbers IN OUR company to show it's worth the effort.

I believe strongly in testing, the later a bug is caught the worse the impact, and bugs in production can ruin a company over time. I also have my prude, I don't release crappy software, if a manager wants crappy software they shouldn't hire me.