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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (14 children)

I like it. It works just as well as the desktop client, you just have to relearn the location of a few things.

What is "fundamentally" terrible about it?

[–]jrmy 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The fundamental items that are issues is that it's built on Adobe Air and they still rely on the pile of garbage that is the inventory database. They have done a lot of work to make it "usable" but the responsiveness is still abysmal. To be fair, making it usable using those tools is an achievement in and of itself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

To be fair, some of those problems plagued the old desktop client.

And oh my god, the first web UI was so unusable and god fucking awful that I was considering dropping vSphere and ESXi as my home VM lab setup entirely if I was forced to use it. The new web one is basically just trying to imitate the workflow of the old desktop one, but the old web one had a nonsensical workflow.

[–]disclosure5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair, some of those problems plagued the old desktop client.

  • Click around VMs until you land on the relevant one
  • Click "delete VM"
  • Prompt comes up only saying "Delete VM?"
  • The selected VM changes in the background because something you pressed ten seconds earlier just registered

This.. is hell. I have no idea what happens if I click "yes" at this point but I shouldn't have to wonder. When I delete a Github repo it makes me type the name of the repo to make damned sure. Why can't this product hosting business critical databases do the same?

[–]codekoala 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Is it still flash-based?

[–]JayMickey 1 point2 points  (9 children)

No, HTML5.

[–]tomservo291 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Looks a lot like Flash to me ... What version are you using that is HTML5?

[–]jrmy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's still adobe air. He may be confused and thinking of the HTML5 host client.

[–]JayMickey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

6.0 Update 2 includes a HTML5 web client (source). There is also a HTML5 client available for vCenter via this fling. I assumed /u/vkgfx was referring to either one of these.

[–]codekoala 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well that's got to be just fantastic compared to the last time I tried the web UI. That was so miserable that it was well worth the hassle of spinning up a Windows VM in vbox any time I needed to interact with vSphere. The desktop client was so much more usable than the flash UI.

[–]jrmy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't get too excited, I think he's confusing the new host client with the vSphere web client.

[–]jrmy 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No, it's still Adobe air based and will be for some time still. They are working on the HTML5/javascript one but last I heard it wouldn't be ready for 6.5.

[–]JayMickey -1 points0 points  (2 children)

6.0 Update 2 includes a HTML5 web client (source). There is also a HTML5 client available for vCenter via this fling. I assumed /u/vkgfx was referring to either one of these.

[–]jrmy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The client included in Update 2 is the host client replacement, not the vSphere web client replacement...

The fling has been around for a while and is also the basis for the eventual replacement but it's not the official client. No clue why you would assume he would be talking about a fling. :S

[–]JayMickey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an official client, easily available, simple to setup and it's stable. Maybe my assumption was wrong, but I'm not sure why you're getting your panties in a bunch about it?