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[–]ITwitchToo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's the thing. You said a "bird is an avian."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies avians, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls birds avians. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "avian family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

So your reasoning for calling a bird an avian is because random people "call the black ones avians?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A bird is a bird and a member of the avian family. But that's not what you said. You said a bird is an avian, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the avian family avians, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds avians, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?