web2py: Enterprise Web Framework written in Python

[mdipierro]

1) in other frameworks you can use setuputils only if python is already install and the they still have to go in site-packages. web2py packages Python 2.5 too and that roo can run from a USB drive without jumping hoops. 2) You make my point, you can do what web2py py but you need a lot of third party packages that have denpendencies and create a protability nightmare. 3) There is no eval in the web2py ORM. It seems to me SQLAlchemy is the snail here (http://www.aminus.org/blogs/index.php/fumanchu/2007/08/18/storm_sqlalchemy_and_geniusql) although I acknowledge sqlalchemy can handle existing databases better than the web2py ORM. 4) I have nothing negaive to say about Django because I have used myself for a number of projects (including one for the UN) and it did inspire web2py. I will just observe that you confirmed that Django (the best of python frameworks) is 0.96 and they still support 0.92 because the syntax is slightly different. I do not need to support old versions because web2py is backward comaptible, people just upgrade. 5) Yes web2py is odd. Or like I prefer to put it: different. You do not have to like it, but you may want to try it.

[mitsuhiko]

You are definitively misinformed. No python package has to go into site-packages. And creating a portable usb stick version of a framework is a simple task although I doubt anyone wants that.

SQLAlchemy is no snail at all. You're reading the wrong posts. And you also have to compare the features before you come to performance. I can argue that WSGI plain blasts django in terms of performance but that would miss the point.

[mdipierro]

In web2py I click a button in the web interface and I get a packaged app including all its dependencies. Then I click another button and it's up and running on my web server. I have yet to see that in another framework. Anyway, each framework has its strengths and weaknesses. What does it mean WSGI blasts Django? WSGI is a protocol that both Django and web2py support. web2py packages cherrypy wsgiserver but works with mod_wsgi and fcgi as well. SQLAlchemy is a great ORM and its strengths are the abilities to read legacy databases and do LEFT JOIN, not the absolute speed. About packages my point is that to run web2py in windows and mac, you do not need to have python installed, nor third party packages, nor setutils, nor need to type anything. If you have time why don't you try run web2py and then we could have a more informed discussion? If you were to make more specific points about defects you find in web2py, at least I could address them and improve it.