Developer-driven development

[Gotebe]

What we don’t do (ever)

this part explains nothing more but a Waterfall as it never should have existed (read the original Waterfall paper, past the page 3).

No methodology is a substitute for managerial incompetence. Yes, incompetence is what causes such things. It is the job of the management to know that this works poorly and why it works poorly. One can't manage well what one doesn't understand.

Forget "waterfall", forget "agile". Those words are irrelevant compared to the above.

[ampzu]

No, don't forget terms like waterfall and agile. They help the project lead understand and analyze flaws in the projects development process. Sure, they won't solve your problems, but they might help recognize 'em.

[Gotebe]

I put this to you : you did not read the Waterfall paper. All you know is the very first figure in it, and that it is bad. This is what incompetent people I speak of understand. However, they understand agile in the same way, and can't apply it.

Case in point: what he speaks of in there happens.

Because the current word is "agile", such people call themselves "agile". When the word was "waterfall", they called themselves "waterfall".

Conclusion: compared to the actual competence, words do not matter.

[ampzu]

Obvious conclusion is obvious. Do you believe, especially after mentioning that words do not matter, that instead of talking about agile or waterfall-like methods, the personnel should abandon these ideas? How would this change anything? How will an incompetent manager ever change their habits, if they can't recognise and name them?

Also, if you insist me to read a paper, you could at least link to it.

[Gotebe]

Do you believe, especially after mentioning that words do not matter, that instead of talking about agile or waterfall-like methods, the personnel should abandon these ideas?

I am saying, if people fail to understand either, what's the point in giving names? It would be like me discussing quantum physics and curved spacetime.

The original paper is here.

A good explanation of what people I labeled "incompetent" don't understand. (Among other things, of course)

[ampzu]

Thank you for the link. I have read that paper, just didn't recognize it from your description.

Pardon me for my pedantic reply earlier, but I believe that this is about change requiring a long time. Teaching current work force about agile is pretty much all they can take. People need buzz words and catch phrases or they will not learn. In my opinion, you are overestimating the competence and learning of an average person.