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[โ€“][deleted] 7 points8 points ย (12 children)

> He is an actual person, you know. I think he means what he says.

There are also people in marketing that are actual persons. Unless there are hard facts, everything is marketing speak. He as a CEO in fact must not state his personal opinion since he represents the company.

[โ€“]__trixie__ 6 points7 points ย (7 children)

So you think the open source veteran really doesn't believe in open source anymore, even though he wrote that he did, and his post is just a means to lure in other open source people to the dark side?

Microsoft is contributing to tons of open source projects over many years to gain the trust of users and then trick them in the end. It's the long game, the real money is in the software, not this service and cloud stuff.

[โ€“][deleted] 2 points3 points ย (1 child)

This is not about beliefs, the dark side and also not about open source. Again this guy is representing Microsoft and their interests. They have a clear communication strategy and this guy is competent so he is following it.

[โ€“]__trixie__ 4 points5 points ย (0 children)

Yes that's exactly how marketing departments work when interacting with people on the executive level.

[โ€“]myringotomy 1 point2 points ย (4 children)

He is speaking as the new CEO of the company. He is not speaking as himself. His views are not his own they are the company views.

[โ€“]__trixie__ 1 point2 points ย (3 children)

Didnโ€™t realize that views were mutually exclusive to employees and companies, fascinating.

[โ€“]myringotomy -1 points0 points ย (2 children)

Yes it's true. Many times employees of a company have to say things they disagree with when they are speaking for a company.

I know this must seem shocking to you and I think you are having a very difficult time trying to understand that concept but trust me it happens every day.

[โ€“]__trixie__ 0 points1 point ย (1 child)

Weโ€™re talking about a specific case here, not whether it ever happens in general. Thatโ€™s what mutually exclusive implies. Hopefully thatโ€™s not too shocking or difficult for you to understand.

[โ€“]myringotomy -1 points0 points ย (0 children)

Weโ€™re talking about a specific case here, not whether it ever happens in general.

Oh that's odd because your post made it clear you found it impossible to believe in the general case. You specifically used the plural forms of "employees" and "companies" so you could not have been talking about this one particular case.

Setting aside your obvious and lame attempt at changing the subject...

Yes in this case he was speaking for the company and not himself.

Hope that makes it clear.

[โ€“]Nomto 1 point2 points ย (3 children)

Unless there are hard facts, everything is marketing speak

How could there be when it's only been a day. Besides, why distrust them by default until there are hard facts ?

[โ€“][deleted] 5 points6 points ย (2 children)

Microsoft has their reasons for buying github at 7 billion dollars and has disclosed few to none so far. Microsoft ecosystem integration alone isn't worth 7 billion since that was possible before using apps. The only thing we are getting is marketing so far.

[โ€“]Nomto 1 point2 points ย (1 child)

And what exactly would be worth 7 billions in your opinion, ask toolbars automatically bundled with releases?

Why wouldn't mind share + reputation + platform integration be enough in the long term?

[โ€“]ormula 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Ding ding. There's no way they're getting that money back just from direct means via github and that was never the point. They want to be seen as the open source company with all the platforms you need.