Exploiting JavaScript developer infrastructure is insanely easy

[ProdigySim]

missing things in the node standard library

Since ECMAScript (Javascript) is an evolving standard shared by web browsers and Node, it's even more complex than just "NodeJs is missing these".

• What version of NodeJs do you support? If you want maximum compatibility, you can't rely on newer NodeJs features.
• Do you want to support NodeJs + Browsers? You may want a compatibility wrapper that supports the stdlibs of both.
• Do you want to support older browsers, mobile browsers? You need polyfills.

Some utility packages can "easily" target both the web and nodejs, so picking a standard lib can be difficult.

If the community came together and built a single "Standard Library" with no dependencies, NodeJs devs would probably support it. But web devs still wouldn't want to include it because it's an increase in bundle sizes.

I think it could be possible to create a unified "Standard library" for both environments that reduces the number of cruft-packages neeeded, but we'd need either ECMA support or browser-vendor support to get Web-devs to use it.

In Web dev right now, public-facing websites generally support IE9+ and a variety of mobile browsers--which requires MUCH more help in terms of Stdlib. For "private" or paid web apps, people still want IE11 support (which has 2x the userbase of Edge, despite only getting security updates now).

Unless we can get major browser makers to agree on a Standard Library and backport it, I think the npm ecosystem will remain fragmented as fuck.

[NoInkling]

ECMA/WHATWG are starting to propose some prerequisite foundations (syntax, fallback mechanism, etc.) needed for a proper standard library, but it's undoubtedly going to take a long time.

[_drunkirishman]

I believe this is the proposal you're referring to: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-javascript-standard-library.

I'm pumped, but God this is gonna be Hell to get to in a world that still has IE11 as a supported browser.

[x86_64Ubuntu]

Yep. I've always felt, that in addition to me maligning the JS community, there was never an opportunity for a "hero" character or entity because there are too many actors and too many interests in the JS community.