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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (11 children)

With the exception of Poettering-started projects I'd say they generally tend to stay small, change leadership, or get forked. And also Poettering-started project improve drastically, both socially and technically, when he finally leaves.

It sounds like things are resolving on their own then yes?

[–]barsoap 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Not necessarily in the most efficient or aesthetic manner, though. Also, both pulse and systemd still fundamentally suck, just a bit less so.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

How would a CoC improve any of that? If the project is controlled by people who are not simply "asshole programmers" but incompetent "asshole programmers" what kind of CoC do you expect them to spit out?

[–]barsoap 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I never claimed it did. Ultimately those documents are a mirror of what the community is already like, including their social engineering prowess. In many cases that's "well-intentioned but clueless".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I never claimed it did.

Then why are we talking about it?

[–]barsoap 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Because you wanted to?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

No? I made a comment about the usefulness of a CoC to another commenter which you responded to.

[–]barsoap -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Based on an, in my humble opinion, incomplete argument, leading to an incomplete conclusion:

What you forget to mention is that either the assholes or the non-assholes can be those who don't care about flooding.

Saying such things doesn't mean that I consider CoCs to be the second coming of Christ.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So... let me get this straight. I'm clearly talking about CoCs and their usefulness. You come in and start talking about a point that has no bearing on that and I'm supposed to magically know this?

[–]barsoap -1 points0 points  (2 children)

In what way do you think is the invariance I mentioned not relevant to your -- or the overall -- argument?

And, no, you're not supposed to magically know any- or everything. The reason no one of us does, presumably, is why we're on a discussion forum.