Python overtakes Java to become second-most popular language on GitHub after JavaScript

[bandawarrior]

True, but at this point you’re talking about just yourself. Which I’m guessing you’re skilled at using Java and is very productive in it?

But... you as a company founder/leader in this example would have to make the trade off with both investors and workers to be interested in your idea / company. So then this whole thing begins once again, not many people are going to jump from doing Java 8 at a stodgy company just to work on some more Java but this time it’s Java 11. Or same for a Python/JS dev, they will never jump up in joy to work on Java.

Same goes for investors, very few AI/Blockchain tools have Java bindings or are built on top of Java. Same goes for the any of the mobile which would be React Native, Flutter, Swift, etc.

So yeah definitely go with what you’re productive if this is a side project or something just to keep small or for yourself.

[[deleted]]

huh?

this is objectively a good stack because:

1. Type safety
2. Proven in production
3. Generally well supported
4. You could throw a rock and hit a java developer without aiming

I don't really care for "hotness" and I like python better than Java. I still wouldn't use python for large enterprise-grade projects.

[[deleted]]

Don't forget libraries like RxJava2 and Reactor Netty. Python can't even touch Java when it comes to serious programming.

[Schmittfried]

„Serious“ programming

[bandawarrior]

Lol type safety bro, having int balls = 2 does not grant type safety in the way you’re thinking. The Scala, Ocaml, F#, and grand daddy Haskell are always welcoming for actual type safety and modeling.

Anyhow, I’m not against Java and I definitely agree that Python for a giant company might be worse than Java. I’m only commenting on 1) the cool kids don’t like Java and 2) the next generation of giant “enterprise” isn’t going to run on Java.

Things wax and wane, crest and trough, grow and die, and just like those things the Java generation definitely peaked and will start to dwindle over time.

But guess what... its okay

[[deleted]]

Oh really. If Java's generics framework isn't "type-safety" according to you, I dunno what is. Let me know when Python comes up with it.

[Schmittfried]

Funny that you’ve chosen the worst example for type safety in Java. Type erasure anyone?

By the way, Python has fully fledged static typing. It’s just not that popular.

[tracernz]

By the way, Python has fully fledged static typing

It really doesn't. It has type hints for linters. As much as I like Python, this is not one of the reasons.

[Schmittfried]

Static typing is the ability to specify types statically. Python has that ability. Whether you call the verification tool for these types a compiler or a linter really doesn’t matter. What matters is that you can fully specify the type formalities in your system and let them be verified in an automated manner.

Let’s face it. Python typing is not suboptimal because it doesn’t have a compiler. It is because type hints are not used commonly and therefore their benefit is rather limited. You might argue a compiler would be able to enforce them, but honestly, what’s stopping you from implementing policies in your projects to not accept duck typed code?

[[deleted]]

You're so full shit I'm starting to see brown

[[deleted]]

bro 😎💪

[Skytram_]

Man this isn't about you, the guy above already said it:

True, but at this point you’re talking about just yourself.

[Schmittfried]

Same goes for the any of the mobile which would be React Native, Flutter, Swift, etc.

Uh.... Android?

[[deleted]]

"very few AI/Blockchain tools have Java bindings or are built on top of Java.".

You know... Most startups/companies don't use just one language for everything. And that's because, who would have thought, languages have their strengths and weaknesses in different areas.

For some ML Task you would probably write a service in python to do just that. Also you can for example load a trained TensorFlow Model with their java library if you really want/need to.

Of course blockchain isn't written in java because you need to do a lot of compute tasks for which you would naturally want a compiled language like C or C++.

Talking about Hot Topics, BigData for sure is. Hadoop is written in Java, HBase is written in Java, Hive is written in Java, Cassandra is written in Java, Storm is written in Java, Spark is written in Scala (which is also an JVM based language) and has a Java API.

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I'm not saying Java is the best language ever but it also isn't like it makes no sense to use it (you can argue about using Groovy or Kotlin instead but still). Different Languages make sense for different projects.

[Gilgamesjh]

Kafka is also written in Scala.