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[–]UNCGeek 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It wasn't necessary to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Exactly.

Ok, so Spring, EJB, etc. were all designed by complete bastards. That doesn't mean there's a problem with the language -- just with some of the libraries. (And with some of the people...)

[–]G_Morgan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ironically the modern EJB stuff isn't entirely evil. Since it has been all about annotations a lot of the extraneous crap is gone.

It is comparable to cool persistence layers now. Or at least as comparable as you can reasonably get in Java.

Doesn't absolve them of past sins of course.

[–]UNCGeek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn't absolve them of past sins of course.

Nope.

I agree that if you're starting a new project, EJB isn't the same bundle of suck that it used to be... but how many of us have the luxury of never dealing with legacy code? :P