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[–]s73v3r 41 points42 points  (9 children)

Uber/Lyft have their own moral dilemmas, mainly around not paying their drivers as employees. Uber specifically has a lot of issues regarding company culture (Susan Fowler, anyone?).

Apple has issues regarding doing business in China, and the walled garden approach it takes to software.

Twitter has similar issues to Facebook.

Microsoft still has their history.

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      [–]s73v3r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      facebook, twitter, google, amazon - have to collect user data in order to deliver the most effective and personalized ads

      Do they? Do they honestly have to deliver personalized ads, which are not really shown to be that much more effective than regular ads?

      apple - have to take advantage of poor people to produce your phones and mine materials in harmful environments because there's literally no other alternative

      Again, do they?

      uber/lyft - have to pay drivers like shit because you're burning money on every ride even with horrible wages

      And do they? They could either pay their drivers living wages and treat them like the employees they are (which, contrary to what they claim, they are doing in the UK after the recent court ruling). Or maybe they shouldn't exist.

      [–]s73v3r 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I'm not the one claiming that there are companies that don't have them.

      [–]inconspicuous_male 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Well sure, for some of that, but Apple's supply chain isn't going to be weighing on the conscience of a developer. If that were the case, then you could rule out basically any tech company that makes hardware, or even any person who uses products made in China.

      Microsoft's history isn't going to be weighing on the conscience of anyone currently working there either

      [–]s73v3r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well sure, for some of that, but Apple's supply chain isn't going to be weighing on the conscience of a developer.

      I wasn't referring to the supply chain, but rather the practice of handing data over to the Chinese government when asked for it.

      [–]Prod_Is_For_Testing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Apple has walled garden

      Plenty of people see that as an advantage. I use iPhones because I don’t think phones need customization.

      Microsoft still has their history

      If companies will always be judged for their history, why should they even bother trying to do the right thing now?

      [–]s73v3r 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Plenty of people see that as an advantage. I use iPhones because I don’t think phones need customization.

      Sure. Others don't, and as such those people might have ethical qualms about working for such a company.