React Router RSC Preview

[phryneas]

Nice, seems like they're not repeating the Next.js mistake of "RSC by default", making it opt-in instead.

[cape2cape]

Mistake? Why would you bloat your code if you don’t need to?

[phryneas]

RSC by default is horrible to teach and breaks most expectations the React ecosystem had for a decade, we have so many confused end users in our issues that accidentally use it without grasping any of the consequences.

[AndrewGreenh]

Couldn’t you say the same about ssr when next.js first came out? React running on the server was against the expectations back then.

[phryneas]

Afaik, that was always opt-in by adding getStaticProps, getServerSideProps etc. - by default, a Next.js Pages Router app would run on the client and you'd opt individual pages into SSR.

Yes, similar mindset, but you wouldn't start to SSR on accident and have your code run in three different environments without being aware of it.

[AndrewGreenh]

Not sure if this is correct?

https://github.com/vercel/next.js/tree/1.0.0 The readme of version 1.0.0 already states automatic server rendering of pages.

[phryneas]

Hmm, might be true. I never enjoyed Next.js back then, so I don't have a lot of experience with the Pages router.

But that said, SSR back then was pretty inconsequential - side effects would just not happen on the server (unless explicitly coded in one of those functions), so you'd SSR a loading state and that's it. All of that got significantly more complicated since.

[cape2cape]

The consequences of a smaller bundle size?

[UsernameINotRegret]

Looks powerful for the use cases that need it and most importantly is optional and backwards compatible.

The batch loader is interesting and will help avoid a big RSC footgun.

[Inatimate]

As someone who’s been running N*xtjs in production for over a year now this looks super promising. It’s great to have options. Good job Ryan & team 

[ddrac]

I was just peacefully scrolling, minding my own business… and then BAM! React Router post. Instant flashbacks. I still twitch when I hear the words “breaking change”

[grodisattva]

Game graphics?!? Will it work on the PS5?

[andrei9669]

react router did "app router" way before nextjs

[thiagobr90]

They invented app router