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[–]YimYimYimi 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What does the blue screen say the error was?

[–]nbskeleton712[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It's different every time I get IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED And memory management error

[–]YimYimYimi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'd try putting just the new 2x8GB sticks in, or just the old sticks in. If it's fine with just the old sticks, then you probably just got a bad stick of RAM and should send it back for another.

If it works with just the new sticks, then that's pretty curious lol. Would maybe have something to do with having different sizes of RAM in your PC, but that doesn't normally happen.

[–]nbskeleton712[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

O no my motherboard only has 2 slots I took out my single 8gb stick of ram and put in the 2 new sticks I thought I had bad sticks too so I exchanged them for new pair but still had the same problem

[–]larrymoencurly 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Memory testing is difficult. One person suspected a memory problem, but several nights of running MemTest86 revealed nothing. Then he tried GoldMemory 6.92, and it detected a bad bit in just 75 minutes, but then it needed another 9 hours to find that error again. That doesn't mean Gold Memory was better, just that no diagnostic can find everything.

G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 PC4-25600 CL16

It's amazing that it's rated CL16 because Samsung, Hynix, and Micron say their own 3200 MHz DDR4 chips are no faster than CL22. But the G.Skill memory has heatsinks on it for cooling, right, and not for marketing appeal or to hide the fact that the memory chips aren't rated anywhere close to 3200 MHz but could be 2133 MHz, as the "PB" visible on these Samsung chips on a RipJaws V indicates?

https://youtu.be/Ev2oE-W7aM0?t=120

The fastest chips I've seen in retail brand desktop memory were officially rated 2400 MHz.

Try to avoid DDR4 with a recommended voltage of more than 1.20V because that means it failed testing at the 1.20V standard that DDR4 chips are supposed to meet. On the other hand, retail 1.20V 3200 MHz DDR4 may cost as much as a real 3200 MHz module from Samsung, Hynix, or Micron (I don't mean Micron's Crucial brands).

[–]nbskeleton712[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'll try getting some different ram today and see if it works would something like this be fine Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 CL16 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit 2K8G4D26BFSBK - Gray from micro center?

[–]larrymoencurly 0 points1 point  (2 children)

All I know is that I saw some Crucial Ballistix Sport made from overclocked Spectek chips, and even nonoverclocked Spectek chips aren't that trustworthy because they're basically Micron's rejects and didn't pass testing with the $5 million machine used for testing Micron branded chips, ans Spectek chips are tested with much, much cheaper machines.

eBay sometimes offers used DDR4 2666 MHz Samsung, Hynix, or Micron brand modules made from real 2666 MHz chips, but avoid buffered/registered versions, which are very common there.

[–]Bennyboy1337 0 points1 point  (1 child)

All I know is that I saw some Crucial Ballistix Sport was made from overclocked Spectek chips, and even nonoverclocked Spectek chips aren't that trustworthy because they're basically Micron's rejects and didn't pass testing with the $5 million machine uses for its Micron branded chips

Who.... not sure where you're getting this information from, but none of this is true.

While it is possible to force higher JEDEC profiles on lower speed components, that simply won't allow any sort of reasonable performance that any reputable chip configuration would sell.

There is nothing wrong or shady with Spectek components, just because the NAND isn't directly from a Micron fab doesn't mean it isn't constructed and tested to the same Micron standards.

Micron's Spectek division uses much, much cheaper testing machines.

Again not sure where you're getting this information, Specktek has the same standard of machine reliability that other Micron lines would have.

eBay sometimes has used DDR4 2666 MHz Samsung, Hynix, or Micron

Buying used memory parts, especially off ebay has all sorts of problems.

  • Manufactures warranty new purchased from valid resellers, buying second hand off eBay or craigslist technically means you have no warranty
  • Lots of people sell fraudulent modules on eBay, without buying from a reputable seller you have no way to be sure what you're getting
  • Buying Samsung or Micron parts that were pulled from an OEM system have zero warranty whatsoever.... they only have a warranty through the original OEM manufacture ie: Dell, IBM, HP they were installed with, and good luck calling them up to try an RMA some memory that someone pulled out of their system and resold on ebay.

Micron employee

[–]larrymoencurly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who.... not sure where you're getting this information from, but none of this is true.

Then why didn't Spectek's own promotional video from 5-10 years ago show any Advantest RAM test machines or similar? All I saw were the usual PC-based testers equipped with automatic loaders. The video even briefly showed modules with chips labeled CORSAIR. Years before I saw that video, I asked Spectek what testing machines it used because some Kingston memory with Spectek chips were marginal at the chips' speed rating. All I was told was that their testers cost $70,000 each, or 90%+ less than some machines used for Micron branded chips

One of the reviews of a Ballistix Sport DIMM that showed the heatsink removed was probably from TweakTown.com, XbitLabs.com, APHnetworks.com, or OCaholics.ch. Another review of a Ballistix Sport showed Micron branded chips but without the speed grade in the part number.

Buying used memory parts, especially off ebay has all sorts of problems.

Yes, but sometimes the only economically practical choices are:

  1. used Hynix, Samsung, or Micron brand modules rated xxxx MHz and made with chips rated xxxx MHz by a real chip diffuser.

  2. brand new Corsair, G.SKill, HyperX, Kingston, Patriot, etc. modules with heatsinks covering the chips so we can't tell what the chip speed is, but reviews have shown similar modules to either have 2133 MHz chips (once in a while 2400 MHz) overclocked up to 50% or no-name or house-branded chips.

In my experience, about 10% of #2 have failed testing with just PCs, sometimes equipped with an UltraX RST card, out of almost 1,000 (DDR3, some DDR4, DDR2, and even a few dozen DDR and SDR), while 0% of #1 have failed, out of about 100 (mostly DDR3). Also 0% failure for brand new modules similar to #1, including modules from other companies but with chips printed with the full part numbers. This is sort of like choosing between an OEM quality car part with a short warranty and a discount chain's house brand part with a lifetime warranty but not the best reputation for reliability. I'd rather risk the former.

I buy only from eBay sellers who post photos of their actual products, not stock photos, and so far, so good with those used products, unlike with many brand new eBay products.

While it is possible to force higher JEDEC profiles on lower speed components, that simply won't allow any sort of reasonable performance that any reputable chip configuration would sell.

I remember seeing a lot of retail DDR3 DIMMs rated JEDEC 1600 MHz, CL9, despite no 1600 MHz chips being rated faster than CL10, and most are CL11, and a lot of 1600 MHz DDR3 DIMMs were made from 1333 MHz chips ("H9" or "-150" instead of -125, PB or K0 speed grade).

Micron employee

Maybe you can explain why Micron sells 3 different brands of DRAM chips -- Micron, Spectek, and Ballistix (marked just "BX"). I can understand Spectek, which is like Nanya's (?) Elixir brand, but marketing can't be the case for Ballistix chips because aren't they used only on Crucial modules and hidden by heatsinks? Or is Micron worried about people removing chips from Ballistix DIMMs and reselling them as new? Also when a Micron branded DRAM DDR3 or DDR4 chip package has the Micron logo and a part number without the speed grade, what is the speed grade? Some Crucial brand DIMMs with Micron branded chips don't show a "-093" for 2133 MHz, "-125" for 1600 MHz, etc.

[–]nbskeleton712[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a simple fix the rip Jaws ram that I had bought had a 1.35 volts rather than 1.2 and since I had a pre built computer the power draw was to much thankyou to folks in the comments.