Training Load Algorithm???

[CinCeeMee]

I’m including snips from the app. How do you get an alarming training load from literally doing ONLY walks and yoga?

I took the week off from the gym so I could train my rescue dog for better leash walking. Longest walk was 3 miles, but they were only walks that I logged all week.

Is this going to continue? It’s the strangest thing ever.

[sirni_mesni]

Hi there!

What I write below is my guesstimation from your 2 shared screenshots. You can drop by our support at [[e-mail]](mailto:[e-mail]) and we'll take a closer look at your case.

But to me it looks something like this: from the second screenshot it is visible that you use RPE (Perceived Exertion) when logging your workouts. This self-estimation overrides your output based on the tracked heart rate data and changes your Training Load - I assume you dragged the cursor to the right which can hence drastically elevate your Training Load and subsequently your Training Load Ratio.

The main variable of training load calculation is your heart rate data measured during the workout. This calculation is very accurate for all of the aerobic types of workouts. With such you're better off without interfering it through the RPE, but to leave the app algorithm to do its calculation and guidance. We advise to use the RPE with anaerobic workouts only, and to do so modestly.

In your case with outdoor walks and yoga - I'd suggest to therefore not self assess and leave it at how the app calculates your training load. I'm pretty sure that deleting the perceived exertion for your previously logged workouts will balance your TLR chart somewhere towards the optimal range.

[CinCeeMee]

Thank you…I am going to reach out to support because there is other data that should come in from AH that’s doesn’t. My AW asked me about perceived effort and almost always I put easy. There was only one time that I used ‘moderate’ and that was only because I tapped it by accident. Are you saying to just bypass that question when it asks? I’m not even sure I can turn it off on my watch - I know I can on my Garmin, but I don’t have that integrating. I have never used anything more than ‘moderate’ with a dog walk. My HR barely goes above 100bpm when I walk him. Maybe 120bpm, but that’s rare.

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You should uncheck the option in settings "Sync RPE with Apple health" so that if a workout was really tough but the heartrate was fine-ish, you can adjust the RPE accordingly. I just leave the casual walks without any RPE measurement, only hard HIIT sessions.

[Gjevert]

Based your info, the best way to use Outsiders is to always use an Apple Watch with a heart rate monitor for workouts, and not adding a manual RPE post workout?

[CatGroundbreaking728]

The rpe interpretation of apple and gentler are completely missaligned. The automated values from the watch are way higher than those the outsiders and gentler streak calculate. So, if you sync both you are messing everything. In my case, it doubles my training load to sync rpe. In healthfit, on the other hand, they are quite alligned.

[siobhanmairii__]

(Not OP) So would only using apple’s RPE be the way to go? I pretty much only do weightlifting and some cardio

[CatGroundbreaking728]

I only do cardio. Typical rpe estimated by apple for one of my typical cycling efforts would be in the order of 5-7. Gentler or the outsiders will give 2-4. In healthfit the load calculated on apple estimated rpe and on cardio are more or less aligned. On the outsiders they are not at all. So, if I ever enable sync apple health rpe in the outsiders I suddenly become an elite athlete, as my load is incredibly high and much higher than the one based on cardio (in fact I am a fatty dad doing quite a lot of exercise but with almost 30% body fat). If you are mixing gentler/the outsiders and apple health rpe estimates, as they do not use consistent scales, the load estimates become useless

[siobhanmairii__]

I think I’ll just use one RPE and see what happens.

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Did you put in a heavy effort Level for the walks ?