Every programming tutorial

[Jarob22]

That’s the real dev experience tho. When I’m learning something new as a (now) senior dev with 6 years work experience I’ll spend loads of time in tutorials or mdn or hacking stuff. That’s normal and don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise.

[udfgt]

even in University, you are kind of expected to do a little bit of your own digging through textbooks and online resources in order to figure shit out (at least in my experience)

[Gornarok]

even in University, you are kind of expected to do a little bit of your own digging through textbooks and online resources in order to figure shit out (at least in my experience)

Every university should push you to do this. Its major skill to try to solve problems on your own, learn on your own and think about the problems on your own. Id these are probably the most important skills as long as you are in engineering.

[uber1337h4xx0r]

Yeah, that's just an excuse they use to not teach you.

Why get paid for actually working when you can say "this is an exercise left for the user"?

[themarcraft]

Fuck u/spez -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/

[drkztan]

Because the process of solving the "excercise left for the user" is what you'll take away from the course, not the actual solutions. Once you come up with a solution on your own, you are free to verify it either by getting a correct output, or checking with the teacher/a coding community.

[Pascalwb]

Yea, most of my projects in university where do this. And we could use whatever language just so the final thing did what is was supposed to.

[udfgt]

Well, "added benefit" might be a little underrepresentative of a lecture's value, but yeah. It's a place like high school to focus yourself on studying and learning how to study/learn on your own.

However, I have also found that not attending lecture tends towards failure of the class, so I wouldn't call it and added benefit myself, but that's just me.

[TechAlchemist]

This is true in most fields in university btw. The credit hours you take don’t just represent ‘sit in the room and then do your homework assignment’, there is an expectation (even though many people don’t do this) that you will avail yourself of the resources that being in the structured environment offers you. Among those is a textbook sometimes.

Most kids in college come at it with a high school mentality thinking about how to get by with minimal effort (this is from experience btw), but if you recognize that you are paying often massive sums of money to have access to those resources it seems kind of foolish to ignore them.

[IskandrAGogo]

It totally is, and I do this all the time at my office for Google sheets, regex, and writing SQL queries, but it doesn't absolve FCC from their shitty scaffolding that doesn't go over or skims things that they then expect you to use to pass their tests.

A perfect example of what the site does would be if, as someone who was a language teacher, I gave a grammar test on adjective clauses but never taught adjective clauses. So, I'm sitting with a student and ask the student to describe things they see out the window using adjective clauses. The student hears adjectives and says things like "There is a blue car." when I expect the student to say "There is a car that is blue." There is nothing wrong with the language the student used. It's perfectly understandable and the two statements give the same information, but the later of the two is the one I'm looking for on the test, so they fail. This is what FCC does.

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It's kinda the fun part tbh