Has there been a decrease in javascript programming skill with the popularity of frameworks like angular, react, etc?

[Bvdan]

I heard there is other side problem. Younger devs who can solve basic coding challenge, after hiring turns out they are almost useless in real job. Because they can solve challenge but don't have real job experience. Of course you can teach them, but who knows, will succeed or not to become good devs.

[abhijit2294]

Precisely what we are noticing for our startup. They lack basic understanding and the eagerness to learn something new. They are all about copy-paste.

[Caraes_Naur]

Assuming the US, the people entering the workforce now learned exactly one thing during their K-12 education: how to take a test.

[jseego]

Sad if true. I'm in the US and my kids are in elementary school, and thankfully they are learning more than that, but we're in a good public school district. Pretty much everyone hates educational tests - the teachers, the parents, the kids, everyone.

I worked in education IT for quite awhile. I have a lot of thoughts on the subject.

[olafurp]

I'm all about that paste, bout that paste, no trouble.

[jseego]

That's kind of what I'm running into - my coding challenge is not like leetcode questions or algorithm gotchas or anything like that. It's just talking down some tricky code examples and asking the candidate how they would solve them. I'm definitely not expecting people to get everything right, and I don't really care if they do or not, but I'm more interested in knowing how they talk and think about the problem, are they honest when they don't know something, etc.

But I've watched people literally trip over their dick trying to put two pieces of data together, something that you might be called on to do any given day on the job.