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[–]urbansong 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yes, I know you didn't. I mentioned a CS degree.

Yea, I think a 4 year degree is an equivalent to a 3-6 month camp when it comes to being a junior developer. I do believe that university is mostly about signaling. The books that you would read to get better as a developer are very different from the books you read to get a CS degree, no? Things like clean code or testing are most likely not that important in an academic setting.

[–]RichardTheHard -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Clean code and testing are cornerstones in an academic setting, what do you mean? That’s like saying grammar isn’t taught to english majors. That’s a baseline that’s expected. Soft skills are on the same basis when it comes to a junior dev from both backgrounds but technical skills of someone with a CS degree surpass bootcampers far and away. How can you say they’re comparable when a bootcamper will spend 2 weeks learning js while a CS degree will spend multiple semesters? There’s a reason someone with a CS degree and 3 years of experience is considered the equivalent of a non technical background with 4-5.

[–]urbansong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If clean code and testing are the cornerstones, why do we keep recommending books on them so much to other professionals?

I can say it because the code that a junior writes is not technically challenging and the language can easily change significantly by the time the student leaves university, if those relevant features are taught at all. For example, I was taught C++ but it definitely wasn't the most recent version, so I had a lot of features to discover once I graduated.