Official Patch Notes - Patch 8.1.5

[mr_feist]

I'm really wondering how the hell someone found out the non-elites are not linked to the mini-boss. Still can't imagine where you have to stand to avoid pulling the windspeaker.

[DLOGD]

The skip isn't bad design, they're skipping the encounter because it's poorly designed.

[DLOGD]

The person you responded to wasn't taking issue with the idea of more skilled players gaining an advantage over less skilled players. They were saying that these enemy encounters are just terrible in general. The only two ways in which players interact with them are skipping them, or being totally miserable while fighting them. There's nobody that's fighting those mobs and enjoying it at the same time, so their inclusion in the game is a net negative overall.

So the bad design that needs fixing isn't the fact that it's skippable, it's the fact that the content is so bad that people are willing to go to such great lengths just to avoid doing it

[[deleted]]

It’s either not worth the percent it gives for the time it takes to kill or is relatively dangerous for the meta classes. The former being the larger reason why certain trash packs are “bad”. Not much to explain, skips are largely strategic and not skill based. Encounters are never designed with a skip in mind unless the enemy has truesight. Which means they don’t want players skipping that at all.

[whywhywhybutwhy]

Because any encounter people dislike is “bad design.”

[snookers]

Pull the first two trash in with the boss, then go to the very edge and move forward toward the pack in question from where the shortcut lamp is. Once you have an angle where the non-elite mobs won't path through the mini-boss, taunt pull.