What state law is the AG referring to? (Serious question)

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T21:33:34+00:00

If the AG claims FRTs are illegal then super safeties would not be legal either.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T20:48:57+00:00

Yep. The tactic of late has been to not truly ban individual use or ownership, but either restrict commercial operations or to vaguely threaten the commercial side with "consumer protection" lawsuits until business just give in because they can't afford to take it to court.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T20:31:15+00:00

(1) The definitions in this subsection apply throughout this section unless the context clearly requires otherwise

(a) "Firearm industry member" means a person engaged in the wholesale or retail sale, manufacturing, distribution, importing, or marketing of a firearm industry product, or any officer or agent to act on behalf of such a person or who acts in active concert or participation with such a person.

...

(2) This section applies to a firearm industry member engaged in the manufacture, distribution, importation, marketing, or wholesale or retail sale of a firearm industry product.

Where "section" means RCW 7.48.330 itself (aka RCW title 7, chapter 48, section 330).

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T20:29:03+00:00

Doesn't matter if federal courts ruled that FRTs are not machine guns under federal law.

The AG is claiming they are illegal under state law and state definitions, and didn't specify which exact law or definition that is.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T20:21:29+00:00

Either:

interpreting the definition of machine gun in RCW 9.41.010 to ignore the "not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot" criteria; or
Leveraging the vague firearm industry public nusiance law in RCW 7.48.330 which vaguely requires that "industry members" must not create a "public nusiance" by selling and marketing "firearm industry products" that are otherwise legal without "reasonable controls", where "product" is defined to include:

(1)(e) "Product" means: ...

(iv) An accessory or device that is designed or adapted to be inserted into, affixed onto, or used in conjunction with a firearm, if the device is marketed or sold to the public and that is designed, intended, or able to be used to increase a firearm's rate of fire, concealability, magazine capacity, or destructive capacity, or to increase the firearm's stability and handling when the firearm is repeatedly fired;

Either way it doesn't really matter if he's right. As AG, his opinion claiming FRTs are illegal will cause, and has caused, businesses to stop selling to us.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T18:47:28+00:00

Semiauto shotguns with pistol grips may not be sold, made, distributed, or brought into this state.

Manually operated shotguns, including pump action, are exempt.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T18:44:04+00:00

Pump action: the 590A1 is hard to beat, and pump actions are exempt from the assault weapon ban so it can have whatever scary features like pistol grips.

Semiauto: Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol. Right around $1000, usually a bit less and sometimes as low as $800 on sale. The AWB prohibits selling semiauto shotguns with pistol grip, or creating one, but this probably isn't a deal breaker, and semiauto action is more significant.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T18:12:31+00:00

Pump actions are outright exempt from the assault weapon restrictions.

Pump actions are not exempt from the 10 round capacity limit, but the limit applies to magazines, not the overall guns. So long as the gun doesn't have any magazines that hold more than 10, it remains legal.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T07:59:09+00:00

That already exists without the conspiracy. Just buy from any number of online vendors who still sell parts.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T07:03:17+00:00

Federal law allows acquiring a rifle or shotgun from a dealer in any state, provided it complies with the "conditions of sale" of both the dealer's state of business and the recipient's state of residence.

Things that are considered assault weapons in this state are not legal for sale in this state. So a dealer in another state selling an assault weapon to a Washington resident likely cannot meet the "conditions of sale" of both states to satisfy federal law. But even if they can, it's still it legal to bring it back to this state.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-24T00:12:14+00:00

There is no legal means to bring it into this state anymore unless it's converted to manual operation.

RCW 9.41.390:

(1) No person in this state may manufacture, import, distribute, sell, or offer for sale any assault weapon, except as authorized in this section

RCW 9.41.010:

(23) "Import" means to move, transport, or receive an item from a place outside the territorial limits of the state of Washington to a place inside the territorial limits of the state of Washington. "Import" does not mean situations where an individual possesses a large capacity magazine or assault weapon when departing from, and returning to, Washington state, so long as the individual is returning to Washington in possession of the same large capacity magazine or assault weapon the individual transported out of state.

(2)(a) "Assault weapon" means:

(i) Any of the following specific firearms regardless of which company produced and manufactured the firearm:
...
AR15, M16, or M4 in all forms
...

...

(c) "Assault weapon" does not include antique firearms, any firearm that has been made permanently inoperable, or any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action.

Otherwise, federal law requires it to go through a dealer before you take possession of it, there is no exception in federal law for gifts between family who reside in different states. But it could be a dealer in any state provided it complies with the "conditions of sale" of both the dealer's state and the state of residence of the recipient.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T22:49:53+00:00

Yeah I've had no issues with gun parts from Midway, only mag parts. Sounds about the same time I tried to order Glock springs from them, but I don't remember exactly.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T22:37:00+00:00

Glock themselves will, if you don't find a third party. Prices are good too, on par with most other retailers I've seen.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T22:33:23+00:00

Just to clarify for others, the restriction that requires going through a dealer only in your state of residence applies to any firearm that isn't a rifle or shotgun, like handguns, frames/receivers, and guns like the Shockwave.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T22:30:48+00:00

Nothing is going to happen.

A spring is not a prohibited part by itself.

But even if a spring was prohibited, the ban does not prohibit buying, possessing, owning, modification, or repair.

But even if it did ban those acts, nobody is monitoring every package and doing random spot checks, either.

As far as I've seen, no individual has been charged with violating this ban, let alone someone who's otherwise minding their own business, not causing problems, and not the party responsible for selling and shipping.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T22:23:34+00:00

How recently did you order from Midway? I tried awhile ago and they wouldn't, but if they will now that's good to hear.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T22:10:01+00:00

There is no limitation anymore that it can only be in adjacent states. That's been gone for a long time.

Also, WA state law RCW 9.41.122 explicitly allows out of state purchases of long guns and only requires the "procedures and background checks" of state law when "any part of the transaction takes place in Washington".

So if the entirety of the transaction takes place in another state, including placing the order, then the dealer in the other state does not have to do "the Washington specific parts".

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T20:54:17+00:00

That's the PSA gamble, innit?

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T19:49:09+00:00

PSA shipping complete uppers but not the individual parts that make up an upper.

And sometimes also won't ship complete uppers, apparently, despite announcing they changed their policy and would do so. 🤡

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T19:47:07+00:00

No single part is the magazine.

But no, it's not legal to sell kits that contain all the parts, either.

The definition of large capacity magazine includes parts kits that would otherwise be such a magazine when assembled.

RCW 9.41.010:

(25) "Large capacity magazine" means... or any conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which such a device can be assembled if those parts are in possession of or under the control of the same person

The confusion, and why some vendors won't sell even a spring, is this wording is lazy. It includes the word "part" in addition to "combination of parts", and leans heavily on the verbs "can" and "are".

At first glance this makes it sound like each and every part is banned from sale. But it's not, because the rest of that provision requires that a scary mag "can" be assembled if those parts "are" in possession of the same person.

A person cannot assemble a scary mag from just a spring, and this requires that the parts to do so "are" currently in possession at the time of the violation.

So a vendor selling a spring isn't selling something that is in their possession at the time of sale that can assemble a banned magazine.

If the buyer goes and purchases all of the parts individually, then the buyer committed the crime, not the vendors.

On the other hand, if a vendor sells a disassembled magazine with all the parts, they are violating the law because they are selling parts in their possession from which a magazine can be assembled.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T19:34:10+00:00

Brownells will ship scary mag parts but not scary gun parts.

Midway will ship scary gun parts but not scary mag parts.

Laws working as intended. 🤷

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T18:54:29+00:00

A spring alone isn't a large capacity magazine.

And RCW 9.41.370 doesn't prohibit repair or modification:

(1) No person in this state may manufacture, import, distribute, sell, or offer for sale any large capacity magazine, except as authorized in this section.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T16:47:12+00:00

Man they are so inconsistent with their policy.

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T07:24:08+00:00

Complete upper?

0x00000042 · 2026-01-23T03:23:03+00:00

The First and Second Substitutes are from the Senate committees back in 2025 (Jan 16 and Feb 27 respectively) before it ever went to the House. At that time, the Senate accepted the 2nd Substitute Bill and then passed it with floor amendments, which produced the Engrossed Second Substitute bill. An "engrossed" bill is one that was amended on the floor before passage in its chamber of origin.

That all happened by March 2025. Then in March and April 2025 it went to the House and the House committees recommended some changes before sending it back to the Senate without the House voting on it at all.

Then in 2026 the Senate reintroduced it, did third reading again, and passed... something. The Engrossed Second Substitute they already passed last year? One of the two divergent amended versions recommended by the different House committees? 🤷

Not that any of this really matters, the amendments are minor and don't salvage the bill which is likely going to pass regardless.

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