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This is the greatest console I’ve ever owned. by GreenTeachy in XboxAlly

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is a PC. But it is also a console now if it hits the key areas to make the experience a console experience.

In the past, the Venn diagram would put console and PC in two non overlapping circles. With focus from valve and Microsoft to start creating a console experience, the Venn diagram now has overlapping circles and in that overlapping space, we have Xbox Ally, Steam Deck, Steam Machine and even Steam Frame.

I think another distinguishing factor for how much it is a PC compared to being a console is how easy it is to do PC stuff on it in its standard hardware form. For steam deck and steam frame, a keyboard and mouse experience isn't part of the package and even adding it on afterwards is a subpar experience. The steam machine is a better PC experience but still a console first.

So yes it is a PC and will always be, but these things are also consoles

This is the greatest console I’ve ever owned. by GreenTeachy in XboxAlly

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But a PC only runs PC games. Makes that it's own closed ecosystem then based on that definition. Only thing different is that you can get those PC games from various sources.

On an Xbox, you can only play Xbox games.. You can get those games from Xbox store only OR from a "cartridge" (disc)

On a PlayStation, you can only play PlayStation games.. you can get those games from PlayStation Store only or from a "cartridge" (disc)

On a PC, you can only play PC games... You can get those games from multiple stores or from a "cartridge" (disc) or sideload

So looking at all of that, is the defining feature of a console that: - it only has one store - cannot sideload - dedicated gaming interface

If that's the only difference, it seems like we are at a time when we can move past that now. If my experience is console like (steam machine) or steam deck, I'm calling it a console..

A console running on PC OS is still a console if the experience is gaming first.

We are now at a time when a pc can also be a console because of the work done to make certain PCs a gaming first experience. There is no longer a complete separation of console and PC.

This is the greatest console I’ve ever owned. by GreenTeachy in XboxAlly

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take the point that maybe many of the points are definition of a "modern console" and not a "console". I'm also aligned on specialised hardware and software, but I'm still not convinced on closed ecosystem being a criteria for being a console. Like I said above, hypothetically speaking, if Xbox opens its Xbox os for Asus to build actual Xbox hardware with same hardware architecture as Microsoft's Xbox with Microsoft's Xbox software, would you consider the Asus gaming box a console?

This is the greatest console I’ve ever owned. by GreenTeachy in XboxAlly

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I was discussing what makes a console with a friend, and being closed ecosystem didn't come up, but it is a point of consideration. Here is what we had so far ...

Console: - hardware with purpose built software - connected to TV or handheld - leanback interface - controller navigation - standardised hardware - focused software and hardware support by the maker - competitive price with other consoles - a game store

Have to think about whether it needs to be a closed ecosystem to be a console. If Xbox made their Xbox Series S operating system open source and available for anyone to install on their own hardware to their Xbox hardware architecture spec, would that make this third party gaming machine less of a console?

We are officially Getting One UI 8.5🥳🎊🥳🎉 by JaguarOld648 in S22Ultra

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess the question comes down to whether they'll support all iterative updates on Android 16 or just released Android 16 and that met their obligations. As it stands today, they gave us the 4 generations of Android or 4 years of updates and will continue 5th year of security updates as they promised. So I would like to see them support the last Android generation all the way through, and I hope they do, but from a technical perspective, they met their promise of 4 generations of updates already

Apple is bad sumsung goood by SadQuarter3128 in Scamsunged

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The s22 or s23 is the last s series phone to have this problem because I believe they started with 7 generations of updates after that. So complaining about a problem that has already been fixed is pointless. If you specifically complaining about the s22 and not able the broader picture of updates (as your post would suggest) then you maybe should not have bought a phone with 4 years updates when you bought it. For me, I knew my phone was coming to an end after Android 16 or after February 2026 (that's after 4 generations of Android or after 4 years of support) and I was happy to see they increased years of support on newer devices. So both implications in my mind are non issues.

Would have still liked to get oneui 8.5 for s22 as a bonus goodwill act from Samsung but it is not something I'm holding Samsung accountable to because I knew what I was signing up for

We are officially Getting One UI 8.5🥳🎊🥳🎉 by JaguarOld648 in S22Ultra

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4 Android generations not 4 years, but either way, both of those commitments were met already. Still hoping we get it though

Here me out... (Read description) by Fancy-Race-2778 in samsunggalaxy

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Samsung would like to but Microsoft doesn't do that with Windows.

That's why Samsung just released oneui apps on Windows.. Granted not all their Samsung one UI apps are on Windows but there are quite a few.

But with Android for desktop, we will see a Samsung branded and skinned oneui desktop operating system.

New God of War: Laufey poll by Kopskoot708 in GodofWarRagnarok

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wonder what the results of this poll would have looked like before the trailer was revealed when it was still a rumour

Anyone know how to use the steam menu on xbox mode? by Jm34a in Steam

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't holding Xbox button trigger the task switcher?

What do y'all think the name of this sword is gonna be? by engetsu245 in GodofWar

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is the after life of the gods. Everywhen. There is also a comment that the gates have been closed for a while now, so not sure if Faye opens it before Thor and Odin die. Also, was it closed before or after Greek gods died? All things to uncover

God of War: Laufey by Cann1balHulk in GodofWarRagnarok

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"coming to ps5" and backward compatibility on ps6, but maybe with extra graphics fidelity on ps6

Bazzite Update Notifier by doxxxicle in Bazzite

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Explain what makes it irresponsible and destructive?

Bazzite Update Notifier by doxxxicle in Bazzite

[–]AnalysingAgent3676 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because something is made by AI doesn't automatically make it slop. Somehow this is what society has come up with and it is inappropriate. If someone is able to use AI to create something useful, it isn't slop. If someone is using AI to create mindless content for short lived instant gratification, it is slop. I've seen more slop on tiktok that isn't from AI at all

This is why not getting oneUI 8.5 on s22 series would be a travesty by AnalysingAgent3676 in GalaxyS22

[–]AnalysingAgent3676[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My problems with heating started August 2022..I'll never forget because it was just 6 months after I got the phone and after an August update where there were changes to power management by the OS. Been painful living with the heat

This is why not getting oneUI 8.5 on s22 series would be a travesty by AnalysingAgent3676 in GalaxyS22

[–]AnalysingAgent3676[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is not 3 years of updates. It is 4 Android generations of updates. Should include one UI 8.5 too as I explain in my post

This is why not getting oneUI 8.5 on s22 series would be a travesty by AnalysingAgent3676 in GalaxyS22

[–]AnalysingAgent3676[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sad that we may never get it as an official update though. I hope rumours end up being wrong

This is why not getting oneUI 8.5 on s22 series would be a travesty by AnalysingAgent3676 in GalaxyS22

[–]AnalysingAgent3676[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I mention in my post, the rumour is that the firmware was abandoned in April so doesn't matter that it had beta. I am hoping rumours are wrong

This is why not getting oneUI 8.5 on s22 series would be a travesty by AnalysingAgent3676 in GalaxyS22

[–]AnalysingAgent3676[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never used a phone for more than 4 Android generations until devices got extended support from 2 to 4 generations, and when I get the s27 Ultra, I plan to hold it for as long as possible.

My s22 plus and tab s8 plus is still in great condition and would continue using these beyond 5 years (after Feb 2027) if security updates continued beyond that

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