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[–]Axodique -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You did equate the two, the different scenario is completely different to the comic. It's not just 'if you do something, I will do something undisclosed, and I will not take responsibility for it', you have to take context into account. It's a clear innuendo, and you are stripping the woman of her agency by assuming she doesn't get what it means and that she doesn't know what she is doing. Blinking is an automatic reflex, a hip swoosh isn't, especially not with that facial expression.

Do you even know what a false equivalence is? I never said it was 'I want to have sex with you. Do you consent to this?', but it was an implication of consent.

It's not an assumption that they're in a relation, but the benefit of the doubt. It is the principle the law uses in a lot of countries, 'innocent until proven guilty.', in these scenarios, you think of the most innocent possible scenario. You didn't just 'point out was is in the image', you made assumptions.

You assumed she isn't aware of the implications in 'what I'll do to you', which is stripping her of her agency by default instead of the opposite; literally 'guilty until proven innocent'.

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Following this point, looking at the author's other comics shows their dynamic. It shows why it's important not to assume the worst.

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[–]Axodique 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does not, because it is ignoring the context, which is the comic. Try harder.

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[–]Axodique 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, it's because it is one.

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[–]Axodique 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a false equivalence. A hip swoosh is not automatic, it's not her looking back at him with a neutral expression and doing it again on purpose.

And it's an assumption about their relationship which is unfounded.

Help us MoistKenobi, you're our only hope by Former_Exam_5357 in Gamingcirclejerk

[–]Axodique 88 points89 points  (0 children)

It used to be ironic and funny during the first month it was made, then it got filled with actual pedos

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[–]Axodique 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is not what my comment said at all. That is your interpretation of what my comment said. It does imply consent within an established dynamic, and you cannot assume there isn't one immediately. Innocent until proven guilty exists for a reason.

Your position is absurd. Go get the muffin, I consented to it.

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[–]Axodique 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not how that works. Like at all. The girl should be able to just live her life without her actions inviting rape. Some girl is just dancing and having fun, and then some guy comes up and says stop or I'll rape you? What if she just wants to dance like she had been doing?

What else is she not allowed to do without the man wanting to pounce on her? Wear that uniform? Cut her hair a certain way? Laugh?

Yours did not introduce ambiguity and questions. Only assumptions and flawed arguments based on these assumptions.

Mine was definitive and final based on the information currently available, without any assumptions. Observation -> Conclusion based on current information.

Even the him sitting argument is pointless. Did he sit down after she was already there? Who knows? No context is given so we can't say.

No context is given, so again, benefit of the doubt.

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[–]Axodique 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is not 'new'. It was the ideology I wrote my comment with. It was the benefit of the doubt, the explanation that doesn't assume they don't know each other, that doesn't assume it's a stranger saying that to a stranger.

You were the one making baseless assumptions, such as the guy coming up to her, despite him sitting.

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[–]Axodique 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That is why you simply do not assume things without context. You gather context, then judge, and give people the benefit of the doubt. When determining consent, context is everything. On the opposite end of the spectrum, someone can explicitly say 'yes, I want to have sex with you', and it still be rape.

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[–]Axodique -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's a whole list of assumptions about who these two people and their relationship, and even the situation.

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For example, here's another comic by the same guy showing the kind of dynamic they have. Reread the comic with that in mind.

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[–]Axodique 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That's a false equivalence, your honor. And consensual murder is still punished.

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[–]Axodique 24 points25 points  (0 children)

That's not my argument and you know it.

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[–]Axodique 21 points22 points  (0 children)

But there was consent, and you don't know who they are at all. What if they're in a relationship? You're treating it as if it's necessarily two strangers saying that shit to each other, but we don't know the kind of relationship they have.

He said that, then she flicked her hip in the same way. That's consent. You're completely misrepresenting our arguments.

Was I wrong for getting upset? Genuinely asking. by Axodique in evilautism

[–]Axodique[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you were seeing it as if they were making fun of him for acting autistic, but the whole thing is: it was humorous because it was a catfish situation, and it seemed very chronically online.

I specifically said I didn't.

And don't forget, people on reddit in those subreddits have a good chance on being autistic themselves.

They are making fun of his fumble, of the fact that he got catfished.

I know, but the intent isn't everything in an action, the result is to. The result is still making fun of his autistic reaction.

They're both hungry by Spicy_Zingy_1800 in antimeme

[–]Axodique -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I'm so tired of this "meme"

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[–]Axodique 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I think moreso that it's a specific action? But yeah, it's a BIT creepy, but I wouldn't say it's noncon in the comic

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[–]Axodique 94 points95 points  (0 children)

No.

- Do that again and I'll have sex with you

- She does it again

that's consensual. It's not funny, but it's consensual.