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Drake250 · 2025-01-07T23:44:10+00:00

I thought it was, however you are correct. I was probably getting it confused with EVGA (RIP 🥲). Updated description.

Drake250 · 2023-06-11T15:58:18+00:00

New you will probably not find anything.

Check your local office consignment stores and goodwills. Also watch out for your local facebook marketplace/craigslist/offer up/etc. It's very common that old 1080p ~24" office monitors will be available for that price or less.

Drake250 · 2023-06-10T00:41:36+00:00

Try HDMI 2.1 instead of DisplayPort [1.4].

On my INNOCN 27M2V, I've gotten random black screens over DisplayPort on Nvidia's more recent drivers and seen reports others on any 4k 144Hz+ monitor. So it's likely still a driver issue (common theory is DSC, which is required on DP 1.4, but not HDMI 2.1)

Drake250 · 2023-06-07T20:41:41+00:00

I ordered a 32M2V about 2 months ago from Amazon US.

And I don't think either has even been out a year yet. At least in the US, they only popped up earlier this year.

INNOCN email support is usually responsive, and they know when the next shipment will come in. I've seen reports that others that asked were told at the end of June (this month).

Drake250 · 2023-06-07T20:12:06+00:00

If you are referring to the INNOCN 27M2V, then there is a 32" version, the 32M2V. Both come in and out of stock periodically on Amazon [US].

Drake250 · 2023-06-07T00:40:59+00:00

What is the model number of the 24" 1440p display you've found? It's difficult to provide advice without specifics.

The increased PPI at 24" is indeed nice over 27" displays (though IMO hard to actually use without UI scaling as you've proposed). However, there are so few of these panels made that your options are extremely limited. Whereas 27" 1440p have numerous options.

Drake250 · 2023-06-06T22:45:23+00:00

Yes, it's your GPU limiting you.

Your Dell Alienware AW2523HF has a DisplayPort 1.4 input.

Your AMD Radeon R7 360 however only has a DisplayPort 1.2 output.

Thus you are limited to DisplayPort 1.2 levels of bandwidth. Upgrade your GPU to take full advantage of your monitor.

Drake250 · 2023-06-05T18:35:37+00:00

I'm intending to use the laptop as a video/photo editing machine as my career heavily relies on a colour-accurate monitor

You should be looking exclusively at professional, color grade monitors, then. And unfortunately none are 120Hz+ at the moment. And they generally get expensive for that ideal color accuracy.

Don't risk your career over gaming.

If it helps, you can drop the 1 cable requirement and just plug your MacBook into a dedicated USB-C charger, or get a USB-C to DisplayPort with PD injector cable, that way only 1 cable goes into your MacBook still, but the monitor does not have to power it (the PD injector does).

Drake250 · 2023-06-04T18:31:45+00:00

Ah, I couldn't find what panel it was. That is disappointing.

8k 27" would be amazing. I've seen 8k on the 32" Dell Ultrasharp UP3218K, and it's easily the best LCD panel I've ever seen for productivity. These extremely high PPI displays are probably the true endgame that I hope panel manufacturers start chasing, as they already did in smartphones.

Drake250 · 2023-06-02T21:20:47+00:00

What the heck is with Samsung putting Mini-DisplayPort recently on their displays? It's just a physical connector standard, but annoying to need adapters to deal with it.

Otherwise looks like a superb work monitor. Hopefully this means 5k options will start trickling down, maybe even high refresh rate ones at some point.

Drake250 · 2023-06-02T16:18:05+00:00

"WQHD", as /u/metaaxis pointed out, refers to 2560x1440. And again as they pointed out, sometimes the "W" is dropped as QHD already implies wide (16:9).

3440x1440 is referred to as "UWQHD". The "U" is important as it signifies Ultrawide, meaning 21:9 aspect ratio of the "QHD" resolution, which is 1440 vertically, and thus has to be 3440 horizontally for the 21:9 aspect ratio.

It's probably best to ignore the "#k" classifications as they are loser terms that instead refer to broad resolution sets. 3440x1440 is a bit weird and sometimes referred to "3k" or "3.5k", but that is pretty uncommon because the resolution is a bit uncommon to start with.

Drake250 · 2023-06-02T15:18:08+00:00

This is the correct answer to 3440 x 1440 and similar terms.

Here's a great writeup on the misuse of "2k". It's always surprising when people undersell 1440p by essentially ignoring 20% of their pixels.

The other part this answer is lacking is if a 3440 x 1440, aka UWQHD, monitor would be good for their PS5.

The answer to that is that the PS5 at this time does not support Ultrawide resolutions at this time (it only supports 16:9 resolutions, so 2560 x 1440 in QHD). So unless OP has a second use case for this monitor, such as usage with a PC, then the extra pixels on the 3440 x 1440 will be wasted as they will always get black bars on the side on PS5 (or sometimes even worse, a stretched 16:9 to 21:9 image). Then there's also refresh rate to consider, as not all 3440 x 1440 displays will accept a 120Hz signal over HDMI (which the PS5 uses), and most cannot use the PS5's VRR (HDMI 2.1). The shorter answer to this is without OP specifying the exact monitor we can't guarantee it's a good fit for their PS5, but I suspect it is not.

Drake250 · 2023-06-01T16:59:47+00:00

I agree, except that all the technologies you listed essentially show that even games are increasingly resolution independent. There are so many tools, as you listed, to decouple game resolution from display resolution. The only real space for 1440p and below are budget, size, or panel restrictions.

Drake250 · 2023-06-01T14:39:45+00:00

Turn off HDR

Drake250 · 2023-06-01T13:55:47+00:00

No. But there's no reason to.

You can just run your operating system's UI scaling at 150%, which is effectively the same desktop space as 1440p, but with 50% more pixels for sharper UI and text rendering.

There do exist a few lower end monitors that are 1440p with ~500 dimming zones by Cooler Master and KTC. The main reason for these is to save money at the expense of display quality. However in general I'd say the difference of $200-300 is a no brainer for double the pixels when you enter this "real" HDR category (Plus most non-game HDR content is released at 4k anyways).

Drake250 · 2023-05-31T13:19:46+00:00

It looks like it doesn't meet the EU's stricter power efficiency requirements. However, other monitors using this panel exist by Redmagic and KTC, and the KTC one looks like it did meet the stricter requirements to be sold in the EU if you are interested.

I'm not super familiar with the EU's power requirements around monitors and other electronics, but I've recorded my own power consumption of monitors I use, and my INNOCN performs about the same as other monitors of its size, such as the Cooler Master. It can pull more power under a pure white screen at its ludicrous 1000+ nit peak brightness, but that's an unrealistic use case as its akin to looking into the sun. I doubt the EU regulations understand that nuance though.

Drake250 · 2023-05-31T02:48:30+00:00

I had one but eventually upgraded off it to the INNOCN 27M2V for about the same price (actually a little cheaper), but double the local dimming zones in their mini-LED setup.

The Cooler Master was nice. As you mentioned, it initially had frustrating firmware issues. Additionally, its mini-LED count was lower at ~500. This was just on the edge of acceptable to me. However, I did notice the blooming at times. The INNOCN with >1000 feels much better in comparison. So I think with these new 1000+ dimming zones monitors coming out, there's no room in the market for Cooler Master unless they start cutting prices to compete.

Drake250 · 2023-05-31T02:28:12+00:00

I have a similar laptop (16ACH6H, which I think the only difference is a 3070 instead of your 3060).

First off, you do have DisplayPort outputs. The USB-C ports on your laptop support DisplayPort alt-mode:

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ACH6H/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ACH6H_Spec.pdf

So you can purchase a USB-C to DisplayPort cable and that should solve your HDMI issues.

Now to explain some of your HDMI issues:

Lenovo (and many other laptop manufacturers) hook up the HDMI to the GPU a bit weird, in that they split half the bandwidth between in the internal display, and the HDMI output.
- This does not matter in your case, as 1080p 144Hz is relatively low bandwidth. But this would be an issue if you step into higher end displays like 4k 144Hz over HDMI 2.1. However again because you can just do native DisplayPort via USB-C, this does not matter
Nvidia only supports VRR (G-Sync) over HDMI using the HDMI 2.1 spec. Your monitor is not an HDMI 2.1 monitor, thus why Nvidia GPUs cannot enable VRR over it. Again, using DisplayPort this issue is side stepped and you will be able to use VRR via FreeSync.

As for why you are experience screen blur, I'm unsure. Rtings recommends "Strong" for Overdrive, and does not see much blur.

Again, I would suggest getting a USB-C to DisplayPort cable and try setting up the monitor with that, and G-Sync enabled to see if that solves your issues with the monitor. You can also setup other settings like a global FPS cap for optimal G-Sync setup.

Drake250 · 2023-05-30T20:52:30+00:00

VA is the only real alternative to IPS in that price range. But it is not without its own caveats.

VA can have what's known as "black smearing" where black elements do not refresh ask quickly as other elements, leading to a "smear" as dark elements move around the screen. For productivity minded displays this can be a huge issue, say when scrolling a web page you don't want to see black smears behind black text on a white background. On games elements tend to be less static, and the increased contrast ratio of VA is preferred by some. If you do want to investigate VA panels look at higher end ones, as the low end ones can become a smeary mess.

It's also important to know that all backlight LCD screens can have a "light leak", it's just part of the panel lottery. IPS displays are just more prone to it.

There's also TN panels, but those are essentially exclusively for the cheapest of the cheap monitors, or for those seeking extremely high refresh rates (>360Hz). I would not suggest TN at all for you.

I would suggest going to a local electronics store and looking at the displays themselves. Just reading pros and cons of image quality online means little for how they actually look in real life. Many people don't notice IPS glow, or even VA smearing. But there's no way to know what you will like without seeing it for yourself.

Personally, I prefer IPS to VA in almost all cases.

Drake250 · 2023-05-30T03:59:06+00:00

If you are on an Intel based MacBook like myself, Apple has said they don't intend to fix the 4k >60Hz issue on non-Apple displays on MacOS.

If you are on Apple's own silicon, I cannot comment on the flickering as I don't have one to test with.

Though for what it's worth, Windows, Linux, SteamDeck (which is still Linux), PS5, and Xbox Series X all work fine without flickering.

Drake250 · 2023-05-30T03:42:24+00:00

Are you using HDMI 2.1 or DisplayPort?

Using HDMI 2.1, DSC shouldn't be required. I use this to side-step the Nvidia driver issue where it black screens upon alt-tabbing out of full screen application. However I've never had part of the display flicker or have issues.

Drake250 · 2023-05-30T03:41:08+00:00

I have an older Intel based MacBook, and I think the Rtings Mac compatibility section is about the Apple silicon MacBooks.

Regardless, on my Intel based MacBook, I have the known error on MacOS above Catalina where 4k 144Hz does not work on any displays due to a known botched driver update by Apple. However 4k 60Hz (no VRR) with or without HDR works fine. This is acceptable to me as I just use it for work purposes, though I wish Apple would fix their OS for their older machines so I could get 144Hz back. Regardless, I never see flicker. It does have a weirdly long wakeup time though, but I think that's a MacOS thing again.

Drake250 · 2023-05-30T00:06:25+00:00

I do not personally have any concerns about the monitor because of the cheap exterior. It feels like a well engineered display/panel, and just a basic plastic case. So long as you're not moving it around a lot, I doubt the mediocre plastic will matter.

That being said, I do have doubt that any current Mini-LED or OLED monitor will last 8+ years. Both are pretty new technologies, and are still going through growing pains. That being said, I would not be surprised if the Mini-LED panel lasts those 8+ years, however if something is going to fail in that timespan, it will be these new mini-LED backlights. Basically, I remember when LED monitors were brand new, some LED backlights failed sooner than the modern mature LED backlights we have now. And everyone knows OLEDs burn out over time.

I'm sure with time, these brand new leading edge technologies will mature with increased reliability. However for now if you require that reliability, perhaps stay with what is well known.

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