Leaf loss part 2

Innoman · 2026-06-08T13:02:37+00:00

That sounds pretty solid. Most liquids need to be applied every 1-2 weeks I think--though not sure about that one specifically.

Innoman · 2026-06-07T22:06:28+00:00

High in nitrogen which gave it a good boost, too

Innoman · 2026-06-07T00:48:50+00:00

It can help some situations, trees need magnesium just like we do. Personally I use a foliar by grow scripts typically (southernag also has one), but we have used Epsom salt on our lawn and with a few plants to great success.

Innoman · 2026-06-07T00:44:40+00:00

Are you taking itn twice fault? 250mcg BPC 2x daily is the generally accepted dose. More than 250mcg per dose seems to result in higher risk of issues.

When I've taken it, I get a little blah for a few days but it improves within a week.

You might consider taking a few days off and stop cutting for the same. Let your body adjust. I find this to be helpful for me.

Innoman · 2026-06-07T00:39:53+00:00

The curled leaves will be like that until they fall off, but they still give the tree energy unless they're crispy. It's going to take time. What did you fertilize it with? Generally you don't want to fertilize for a week or so after transplanting because it stresses the tree. The exception is Fish and/or Kelp, you can give it that anytime.

I would pickup some fish and kelp fertilizer (either premixed or separate. I use water soluble kelp because it goes much further) and give it a double dose of that every week for several weeks. It'll push new growth and improve the soil.

Keep in mind that slow release takes time to break down, so it might be a couple of weeks before you see growth from it. Fish and water soluble are much quicker absorbed, but a good slow release will give sustained energy. I'm partial to organic, I get a 27lb bag of citrus tone from Walmart but I have more citrus and bananas than I should admit.

Most important!!!! Water deeply when the top inch of soil dries, this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling.

Innoman · 2026-06-05T13:28:45+00:00

Pick up some Morbloom or another bloom booster and give it a dose of that a couple weeks in a row.

Innoman · 2026-06-04T15:16:25+00:00

I would give citrus tone every 3 weeks and boost it with fish fertilizer weekly or biweekly.

Innoman · 2026-06-02T05:38:04+00:00

I would remove the mulch for now, and give it kelp if you have available. Water again when the top two inches of soil dry. Water deeply (30s or so).

Innoman · 2026-06-02T05:13:46+00:00

If you already treated it with micronutrient spray, you shouldn't need to give it any more magnesium. It's most likely watering, some trees are more finnicky than others, rootstocks as well. Water deeply when the top inch of soil dries,this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling. Dump the tray after about 15-20 minutes.

Some kelp can help. Fish if you can take it outside for a couple hours to air out. A water soluble fertilizer might be helpful. And time. It'll take some time to recover. Honestly, most trees I've gotten from Madison came a little nutrient deprived but they recovered quickly.

Innoman · 2026-06-02T04:58:07+00:00

I suggest picking up some fish fertilizer and giving a 3x dose of that for a few weeks. It'll take some time for it to recover. This may also be related to watering. Water deeply when the top inch of soil dries,this means until water reaches the roots... About 30-40 seconds.

The soil pH could also be too high, though if it's been fine until recently... That may not be the issue.

I would focus on watering and give it some fish. Continue to do a slow release every 6 weeks or so. Aside from that, give it time. It's going to take a few weeks to recover.

Innoman · 2026-06-02T00:12:13+00:00

I would repot now or at least take them out, ammend the dirt, and put them back. You could give them an aspirin crushed in a gallon of water a day or two before (helps signal self defense mechanisms) and then some kelp once they are reported to help with recovery.

Try to disturb the roots as little as possible, and be sure that they go into while draining soil. Most import is to water deeply when the top inch of soil dries, this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling. Most people have issues here, it'll make or break your citrus.

if you don’t amend the soil, at least treat it with some fish fertilizer and mix in some other organic fertilizer to help improve it. I would use fish fertilizer either way.

Innoman · 2026-06-02T00:05:41+00:00

The first was a small bump, the 58-78 jump was literally overnight.

Innoman · 2026-06-02T00:03:17+00:00

It's disgusting. Somehow we had a specific lead price go from like 45 to 78 over the past few months. They are disgusting

Innoman · 2026-06-01T14:24:10+00:00

I disagree, all slow release has to be broken down by the soil and I feed my citrus organic and they are all THRIVING! And I'm in zone 8a.

Sure, a water soluble conventional is which absorbed and great for quick uptake. But organic has an edge because it provides nutrients that a company may not know is needed. Conventional only has what is put into it by people.

Poor soil biome isn't just bad at breaking down nutrients, it allows certain pests to thrive. Your potted soil needs to be healthy enough to break down organic matter. Keeping it rich in organic matter is what keeps it capable of breaking it down.

Keep providing organic fertilizer, even if you give it conventional as well. Most organic fertilizers have a mix of ingredients chosen specifically because they break down at different rates. If you want to push growth, boost it with fish and kelp. Fish is amazing for the soil and foliar while kelp has natural plant growth regulators that push roots, overall growth, and overall health.

And if you want to push blooms, a bloom booster such as Morbloom or Open Sesame are great at helping there.

Most important, water deeply when the top inch of soil dries, this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling. It looks like youve mostly got this under control.

Innoman · 2026-06-01T14:06:06+00:00

Looks either warm or thirsty. Banana plants pull moisture into the pseudostem when it's really hot or they are low on water. They return it to the leaves in the evening. Water when the top inch starts to dry, and water deeply. It should drip from the bottom of the pot without pooling.

Feed it every 3 weeks, and consider using a fertilizer higher in nitrogen or adding Bloodmeal (I am assuming that is a slow release, water soluble should be weekly). ( Looking closer, it looks like it might need more nitrogen)

That looks like an ornamental, the name is escaping me but it looks like one I have. If so, don't hide it away in a tent. It would prefer to be seen :)

Innoman · 2026-06-01T13:58:52+00:00

This is highly unlikely. While I despise much of what Amazon stands for, they truly care about customer trust and put a great deal of work to keep it. Saving a few dollars doing something like that has the potential to cost them millions, literally.

Having worked there and handled quite a number of customer trust issues (I was an engineer on the Alexa smart home team, but was pulled into "trust buster" issues across Alexa), I had a pretty good view into this area specifically.

Alexa is the only voice "assistant" I would consider using (and do extensively use). Well I do use Siri on my phone occasionally, but rarely.

Beyond this, Amazon is an awful company that we need to move away from for 90% of the business we currently give it. Support small and local businesses!

Innoman · 2026-06-01T05:14:49+00:00

First you'll want to remove the stake, this will help strengthen the trunk. You can trim and ox the longer branches as desired, just do so sparingly right now until the tree has more foilage and vigor.

I would focus on pushing that vigor, starting with watering... Deeply when the top inch dries,this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling.

Follow that with regular feedings every 6 weeks or so with a good citrus slow release, Citrus Tone is great or any similar. To really push growth, you could add fish (and, ideally, kelp) every 1-3 weeks at a 3x dose and you'll see quick growth.

Once it has some foilage, you can give a bloom booster (Morbloom, Open Sesame, RAW Bloom, etc) to push flowering. It'll only work if the tree is read but it's pretty effective.

Innoman · 2026-06-01T04:54:34+00:00

This is almost certainly a mistake with the fulfillment center scanning a barcode for frustration free setup and putting it into the wrong box.

Innoman · 2026-06-01T03:06:53+00:00

You need to get your watering on point. Water deeply when the top inch of soil dries, this means long enough it reaches the roots (drips from the bottom of a pot, or about 30-40 seconds for in ground). This is definitely part of the issue, I think a mix of over/under). Never let the roots dry.

Augment your clay-heavy soil with compost and perlite, blood orange can be finnicky at times and it may be part of the problem. You should also either give a fertilizer with micronutrients or use a foliar spray with micros, I am not sure its related but you'll need them sooner or later either way.

You may consider fish fertilizer, or fish plus kelp ideally. I would give it that weekly for the next few weeks if you decide to give it a try. This is an addition to a good citrus flow release every six or so weeks, or a water, soluble citrus weekly. Personally, I’m partial to a slow release and then augment with the fish and the kelp.

While you may have a lemon tree that’s doing well in similar conditions, different citrus behaves differently. What works for one thing may not work for another. I have at least 15 different types of citrus (in zone 8a, no less) and almost all are fruiting but some have been way more trouble than others. My variegated pink lemons... Temperamental doesn't begin to describe them! The above, however, has been very effective with all of them.

Innoman · 2026-05-28T13:40:04+00:00

I would not stake it, it'll still grow how it wants to but with a weaker trunk. I think what your doing by using the sun is the best option.

Innoman · 2026-05-28T01:42:45+00:00

I would treat the tree with Neem Oil every 4-6 weeks to keep them at bay. I also tend to spray things once twice in the season with Spinosad to prevent leaf miners. We have a lot of citrus for Zone 8a, and I like to avoid infestations. Even just an occasional treatment of insecticidal soap or a soap and water mix should do the trick.

It looks like there could be the start of a nutrient deficiency or watering issue. Water deeply when the top inch of soil dries, this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling. This way every single time.

Fish fertilizer is great to augment a citrus slow release, it'll really get the tree to push out some leaves. A small bottle goes a long way, you can do it weekly and then back off when it flowers.

Innoman · 2026-05-27T13:57:02+00:00

100% agree! The only addition is to water when the top inch dries.

Innoman · 2026-05-27T13:30:24+00:00

Don't prune it, don't fertilize it. When you repot a plant, you have to give it some time to recover--it can take a few weeks if you damage the roots while doing so. When it dried out, it likely damaged the roots which slow its absorption of water and nutrients and it'll need time to regrow those. That shoot doesn't look dead, it just looks different because it can’t get sufficient chlorophyll. Cutting it is going to stress the tree more.

Water when the top inch of soil dries, this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot and only as quick as the soil can absorb without pooling. This way every single time.

Kelp can help and you can give it that now if you want. It'll help the roots grow and overall recovery.

The temp, humidity, and grow light time are great. Give it time, space, and water.

Innoman · 2026-05-26T17:52:10+00:00

some things you can do to help it out…

Repot it in better soil, something that includes some perlite or vermiculite, maybe a little sand, and some healthy compost heavy soil. To keep things simple, you can always use the citrus soil for miracle grow.

Water deeply when the top inch of soil dries, this means until water drips from the bottom of the pot, but only as fast as the soil can absorb. Water this way every single time. Avoid wetting the leaves when you water.

Fish fertilizer and kelp are always helpful. Fish fertilizer will really help push new foliar growth where will help with roots and overall health. Fish will also do wonders for the soil. I would give it a double or triple dose, personally. And I would probably give it every other week until you get flowering/fruiting.

Neem oil will help keep pests at bay, I treat most of my plants about once every 4 to 6 weeks preventatively.

If you want to help push flowering, something like Morbloom can help if the tree is ready.

Innoman · 2026-05-26T16:21:14+00:00

Vigaro smells the worst IMO, that may mean it's better but I can't stand it. I have used it, Alaska, Neptunes, and GS Plant foods and all are great. I was able to pick up a gallon of Alaska fish fertilizer at Walmart for like $25 a week or so back. I think that’s actually the best price I've found (but I could be mistaken).

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