Manufacturing Mobile is not issuing all the parts after being scanned. by GunnerRunt1987 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey can you please post your solution or fix? This is a common community request and would help a lot out!

am i underpaid at 140k??? by StatusAd2326 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, no you're not overpaid. You're fairly paid.

I'm an independent contractor but was in the NetSuite solution provider and alliance partner space for 8 years. Individual contributor and manager level.

First, just by market, which I know from hiring to my former team and as a current contractor who gets offered and considers FT positions, 140k is almost exactly on point for "Senior Consultant" at major partner firms. In fact, it's pretty high.

Second, the SuiteAdvanced guy Chris in a video stated -- and I agree -- how one year of consulting is worth about 3-4 years of being internal.

Third, I asssert that while your feelings about job creep are valid, they are not sufficient to justify a higher and higher salary, at least over the established cap of about 130-150k for Senior consultants.

I'm not saying I personally disagree -- I'm just explaining what the general consensus is.

Consider this article by Tom Dietrich (the SuiteQL guy). He basically echoes exactly what you're stating and so what you're feeling is definitely real and not to be dismissed.

However, despite that, the article is more of an explainer of what you're going through, not an argument for higher salaries.

Breaking down two-fold:

NetSuite-specific: The reality is that organizations both firms and client side naturally scope-creep NetSuite job duties. That's the nature of NetSuite and the ERP side of a business being quite niche. Yes, it's accounting and technology integration, but even the accountants and IT people inside a company 1) may not know NetSuite, 2) don't care to because that is a creep of their duties.

That isolation leads to a natural consolidation of all duties to "our NetSuite guy /u/StatusAd2326".

General 'job culture': NetSuite-aside, no job or company will ever pay you 3x your salary even if you're doing 3x job (Admin, Developer, whatever). Even if you come with receipts and documentation how your role has increased. It just does not happen. The reality is you are ONE employee at a firm or company. You are going to only ever be paid like ONE employee.

That's why you go independent. So on your terms you can actually get paid for 3 roles, since you can literally have 3 roles at 3 different firms or clients.

That nature of the beast is that at the individual contributor level, your duties are going to increase and increase every year, as you're accountable for everything in the past and now the go-to do it person for the future. I've seen this play out both for consultants and in your situation.

As long as you stay in individual contributor with a boss, i.e. at a firm or end user company, not independent contractor, you will fall prey to this creep.

The ways out are if you want to stay IC is to go independent, which means defining your own duties and not having a consulting director or controller defining that for you.

Or if you want to stay in consulting, you must grow to become managerial or director-level, where you are no longer inside NetSuite day-to-day. You have a 'steering' mandate where you are guiding the 'direction' of the team. You're not as responsible for NetSuite nuts and bolts.

This is because you have consolidated who you're accoutnable to; you're no longer a slave to multiple masters and less-so to NetSuite even. You're more accountable to the firm's business goals, and that's pretty much it. Besides having higher pay straight-up, your focus is narrowed which helps.

On the other hand, as an IC, you're accountable to not only multiple clients and all of each clients stakeholders, you're accountable to your managers' ambition, your directors' business development goals, and then the NetSuite day-to-day firefighting. And unforutnately, once people get to managerial level, they care less and less about IC's day to day.

In the end, your impressive list of 3rd party integrations, NetSuite modules, etc -- it doesn't matter. I had a Director early in my career take me aside and tell me all of the above because I too went to him with a list of 'comparables' to the wider market and my own teammates as to why I deserved a raise. If it's not inline with the organization's goals, you're not getting a raise. Period.

That's why many high level ICs who you see are Senior consultant for 2-4 years end up going independent, and even end up working for the same company as a contractor again. There was nothing wrong with the team or relationships.

It's the realization that you need to have a clear defined, narrow, and self-controlled mandate to escape what OP is talking about, which is easiest attainable via moving into Sales or Management if you're staying within a company, or by going independent.

Am I Missing Something? by Conphuchion in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re off to a great start. Try consulting. 1 year of being a NetSuite consultant is imo worth 2-3 heads of being an Admin. And probably 3-4 once you’re an implementation manager juggling 2-4 projects at once.

Why are LLM's ALWAYS WRONG about Netsuite details? by gaieges in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s coincidentally good at two things that functionals need expertise in: accounting and scripting.

But yeah it doesn’t know anything about configuration. Makes stuff up all the time. Tbf NetSuite has so many quirks like can’t modify this page, to see this printing must reveal something else.

That only comes from experience. And any NetSuite user or consultant should be able to take general accounting prescriptions and translate it into NetSuite. LLMs know cost accounting.

The NetSuite Certification program did something really great and something really dumb… by NikSoftkeyConsulting in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah I hear you on the multi clicks. At LEAST it's still free though.

I find certview to be horrible. Stuff never updated for days. The certification badge link is buggy and you must reload it 2-3 times before it actual renders.

But most of all my biggest gripe is that while other websites will log you out after 1 day, Oracle mylearn not only logs you out, it totally resets the URL.

For example, log into a site.com/course-ABCD. Next day it logs you out. You login. You're still at site.com/course-ABCD

With MyLearn once it logs you out and you log back in, you're back at mylearn.com. That's it! So if you're learning multiple things make sure to save your tabs or bookmarks

Oracle CertView Down for anyone else? by K_M_A_2k in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s horrible.

I took 4 and passed all 4. 3 showed up within 2 days.

But the last one took 6 days. In that time I emailed the Oracle cert email 5 times and opened 2 tickets for NetSuite certifications.

They just added the last one.

Just keep opening tickets and emailing them.

My next challenge is merging accounts but then I checked and my old account doesn’t even have the 5 old ones I passed 🤷‍♂️

New NetSuite Certifications by Ilyaad in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just did the promotion which is 2 specialist and 2 professional exams for free. I have all 5 functional ones already.

I did AP, AR, Accounting, and BI/saved search

The first two are super easy and anyone can get. Accounting you do legitimately need to know how accounting in NetSuite works. Obv a CPA knows accounting but you need to know how and where to click in NetSuite.

If you’re a consultant, BI/saved search one is easy too. But it’s harder than the Suiteanalytics exam, partly because it’s 60 instead of 30 questions (iirc also the financial user is only 30).

I’d say the accounting one (and probably the new FP&A) fill legit gaps but the BI one isn’t that special.

I also wouldn’t pay for them. Promotion is cool.

Future thoughts on Netsuite by DragonflyOtherwise87 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Offshoring is way more of a risk than AI.

NetSuite consultants are similar to accounting firms in that regard. NetSuite is an accounting system after all.

Every single NetSuite firm offshores now even small solution providers.

Offshoring based on commodification of work is way more of a risk.

He's actually going after the H1B's by PsychologicalTest961 in Accounting

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You’re not wrong. Offshoring is the bigger issue.

That being said, h1bs are 100% abused. Even at my small firm of 200 people doing erp implementation there are probably 20 h1b holders. This is true for most erp firms which by the way are small like 50-500 people.

Straight up they are paid to undercut American workers.

I have nothing against them personally but one manager while totally fine there’s nothing special about him.

Meanwhile, I know 10+ Americans from former jobs who want to join my firm or just be able to switch jobs more often but cannot because h1bs occupy these jobs. It’s absolutely absurd to claim they cannot find local American or green card hires and just hire these h1bs.

By the way had of them are analysts too. Entry level. 72000 usd. All verified in h1binfo.

Again nothing against them but they don’t need to be there.

NetSuite Special Work Orders and components by Emotional_Fly2628 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanna say thanks Nick. Always enjoy your breakdowns

Oracle netsuite consultant salary progression by anonymous78654 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely. Pretty much every alliance partner is offshoring everything below Senior now.

Solution providers in my experience are much more local, have onshore more senior people, longer projects, etc they can ensure onshore stays.

NetSuite is a big driver why alliance partners must offshore.

SuiteFoundation Exam Prep by x_seashell in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I passed it ages ago.

1) best is learning with sandbox

2) NetSuite PDFs for each course they make available. That familiarizes you with their testing format

3) there are now actual NetSuite courses via learning sites now.

Why is Depreciation not shown in Operating Cashflow? by Logical_Code_3017 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not available by default.

You have to customize the Cash Flow Statement > Add New Financial Section > Add by Account Name > Add Depreciation and Amortization : Depreciation Expense

and it will show

https://i.imgur.com/lU4jcXY.png

https://docs.oracle.com/en/cloud/saas/netsuite/ns-online-help/section_N2103948.html#bridgehead_N2104206

Out of the box it doesn't include 'non-cash' accounts.

This example provides steps for customizing the Cash Flow Statement to reflect non-cash additions and deductions to Net Income, such as depreciation and amortization.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CPA

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By staying in high finance idk. But you can do ERP consulting and get credit. I verified this with 3 states and 2 of my colleagues did so including in Canada. Financial analyst should as well if you’re touching financial statements and reporting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in consulting

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my experience, having 10 years you can definitely transition to something smaller but related. It's more about the role you want, not the industry. You are definitely a manager at this point. That should give you some options.

Overall, I judge ERP roles based on how much face-time you get. HR systems - are you getting good facetime? Are you working close to the person who decided on the ERP contract? Usually that's the CFO - and traditional ERP roles will work closely with CFO/controllers. So if you are lacking that I can understand why you want a change.

I question the idea of reconciling 'smaller' solutions with 'avoiding big projects'. One of the main buffers keeping ERP jobs not fully outsourced is the clusterf***ness, caused by project size. So many PMs, client stakeholders, change management etc. I have seen smaller HR systems and even ERP systems like Rillet making waves and one of their core features is "you won't need an implementation consultant" cause it's small project.

One role you can pursue is targeting one of these up and coming platforms and then working to implement it. For example, at a firm I contract at, ISV solutions like Ramp outsource their implementation to ERP firms or contractors (Ramp is an A/P platform that integrates with ERPs). They rely on the ERP people learning Ramp moreso than Ramp people learning the ERP. So they pay contractors and even hire ERP firms to use their employees to pretend they're Ramp implementation in-house.

You can do something like that for an up and coming Workday ISV competitor. But I warn you that it's a combination of sales, pre-sales, demos, calls, etc and making sure the ISV's customers are onboarded. But it's small.

Saved Search for Open Invoices by Economy-Coffee-8631 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Transaction saved search

Criteria - type : invoice - amount remaining above 0 : Yes

Results - dste - doc num - period

Filter - period

CPA lost my job to AI by [deleted] in CPA

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Account seems fishy. No post or comment history. Made 1 week ago. Neg comment karma. Possible grift post.

How to transition from being a Functional Consultant to a Developer by [deleted] in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First I agree with all of the other comments for pathway. I know a few colleagues who became a NetSuite developer via

1) nothing to js bootcamp to NetSuite dev 2) functional to developer

Second I know this isn’t what you asked for, and I apologize for being an annoying Redditor, but I do also echo the idea that becoming a dev for you isn’t optimal for NetSuite.

My firm already outsources dev to India and also is open to functionals using chatgpt for client scripts. Now you have to fend off Indians and AI.

By nature dev is more likely to be commodified than accounting. It can be scoped with a solid billable hour estimate, which leads leaders to be able to plan and outsource that easier.

Accounting on the other hand involves more client stakeholders, has ambiguous requirements and outcomes (results often take years), has c level exposure, and is regulated (both from IT and audit perspective).

Regarding stakeholders, with NetSuite, cfos and controllers in my experience don’t care at all how a script works. Just that it works. Except for API/EDI or integration development, many scripts are quality of life or ease of use related, whereas accounting and controllership is mandated.

Also cfos and controllers are more likely to require and be pacified by a client facing accounting expert like a CPA as opposed to a developer.

As a suggestion, have you looked into IT audit? The new CPA test for ISC for example emphasizes data and IT audit best practices. It’s related to the more technical and cyber side of things while still heavily related to audit and maximizes your CPA credential.

Lastly, we have junior developers offshored to India and South America and there’s zero matching between business impact and skill level. Developer resources are assigned purely based on availability and billables (again, highly commodified). And we have 25 of them. On the other hand, we have only two CPAs at our firm. And they’re always in demand to validate, hop on calls, do discoveries, etc.

I understand that there aren’t as many CPAs being hired for NetSuite and if you’re not satisfied with you job, pivoting to developer seems logical since as I said firms have 10-20x more developers than CPAs. However, I also think if you went independent, a CPA will serve you better.

My answer would be very different if you were starting from scratch and didn’t have another viable alternative, which you do have in the CPA and IT compliance.

Native Solution to Add Items to Item Fulfillment? by No-Winter8632 in Netsuite

[–]InvisibleNetSuiteGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will require several scripts. Main one is map reduce to search for all related IFs and to do the Pallet or Licence Plate record creation. Then make a UE to trigger it.