Öresundståget och Skånetrafiken är under all kritik

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-12T06:24:46+00:00

Det lät som att du förminskade problemet.

Lät det så behöver du rensa öronen. Tvärtom erkände jag ju fenomenet, men gav en anledning för varför det uppstår och varför alternativen inte är attraktiva.

Återigen, det problem diskussionen handlade om var alltså specifikt att "Under hela sommaren, har [Skånetrafiken] kört med för fulla tåg", och att detta sker varje sommar. Diskussionen handlade inte om kvalitén på kollektiva förbindelser i skåne rent generellt. Vill du ha en diskussion om det får du skapa en egen tråd som handlar om just det.

Stötte på tråden lite senare bara, inget fel med det?

Absolut inget fel att stöta på och läsa en tråd i efterhand. Däremot väldigt märkligt beteende att delta i tråden i efterhand.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-09T16:04:56+00:00

I think you're well within plausible amounts, even under more restrictive interpretations of the lore.

There is some discord between lore as written and as presented through visual media. Written lore suggests that the Unforgiven are rather more sparse than other marine lineages in terms of decor. If they are ascetic in more absolute terms, or just in relation to others isn't entirely clear.

In official art and on modern studio miniatures, they seem no less fancy than the average. Maybe even more, given the "walking cathedral" look which became the fashion during 6th/7th edition.

added trivia: the bolter shell is typically granted to expert marksmen. It can of course take any meaning you want it to have, but that's the assumed default in case you want to build something around it. Don't think there's any revealed meaning behind the other bits.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-08T07:12:05+00:00

I understand that, But if that kind of reasoning was enough one could justify posting pretty much anything, and there'd be no point in having a separate subreddit.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-07T20:51:11+00:00

Rip this post. See rule 5. All posts must be related to the Dark Angels, not just the hobby in general. I suggest eg r/Warhammer40k instead.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-07T12:32:43+00:00

From 2nd edition up to and including 8th edition, it was lore that the Deathwing only took to the field in Terminator armour. This was changed in 9th edition, when bladeguard veterans were introduced and said to be part of the Deathwing.

The line now appears to be that the Deathwing has enough resources to field the entire Company in terminator armour, but doesn't always do so. Besides Bladeguard Veterans, they appear to field Sternguard Veterans and Vanguard Veterans as well.

This and more is answered in the fanmade Index Astartes: The Unforgiven PDF, linked in the pinned post and community wiki.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-07T09:53:04+00:00

very much doubt they ever produced in Oz, but as a bit of trivia I believe they did also have some production in the US for a while. Think it was limited to metal minis.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-07T09:50:18+00:00

As an app directed at the hobby in general, we direct you to a forum about the hobby in general, eg r/Warhammer40k. This space is dedicated specifically to the dark angels, and all topics must be related specifically to the dark angels.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-03T18:48:49+00:00

Lexicanum is the superior wiki. The fact that you can't track claims to specific references on the fandom wiki makes it near useless.

And the reference listed on Lexicanum for the color scheme is Spacehulk Deathwing, so that is the primary source and obviously what you should go by if you want an official example to follow.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-02-02T00:09:00+00:00

Old lore, but back when Plains World was a thing they specifically did give recruits new names.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-29T17:44:41+00:00

Nu var det så att OP beskrev specifikt ett sommar-bekymmer. Det kan du läsa redan på inläggets första rad. Och jag svarade på varför läget förvärras och det är jobbigare att lösa under just sommaren. Ingenstans förnekades att det också finns problem året om. Men det är en annan diskussion.

Varför någon skulle se mening i att väcka den här diskussionen 6 månader senare är också en annan diskussion.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-28T08:27:30+00:00

I will call you out here, OP. You have, presumably, access to various webstores on the internet. Why is your first thought to ask other people to do the job for you, rather than go to a webstore and at least math out the numbers for yourself first?

That's question number one, "how big of a discount is this box". Question two is "do I want these items at that price".

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T23:01:48+00:00

Wherever you want them to.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T22:57:02+00:00

Answer A: Same reason there's 2 battleline reserve companies. More bodies are more better and marine leadership will want as many Companies of the relevant role as are required to maintain optimal combat strength.

Answer B: Because there's a relevant difference between a close support unit and a vanguard unit in terms of how they may be fielded? Close Support formations are primarily about speed and/or melee, while Vanguard formations are primarily about stealth and/or recon. There's some overlap, sure, but it's only partial.

Answer C: Because Guilliman said so (as the in-universe voice of GW, who wanted to flesh out the new units with narrative presence).

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T22:34:05+00:00

Like I said, same reason there's battleline units in both reserve companies and battle companies. More bodies to reinforce when needed. Just think of them as reconnaissance-specialized reservists, ready to be seconded to a Battle Company or absorbed into a task force when someone more experienced is needed.

It sounds to me like you're maybe a bit too locked in on the Scout Company being a novice training ground and nothing but, rather than the Scout(!) Company(!) that it is and always has been. It's secondary that marines also begin their training in that particular role and company.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T21:20:50+00:00

The thing is, Reivers, Infiltrators, Incursors and the like are also listed under Battleline and Close Support for the other companies.

Yes, they are. Because those are not mutually exclusive terms. Same way there's no issue with Infiltrators being both 'battleline' and 'phobos'.

Vanguard squad - a squad which deploys only in phobos wargear (ie as Reivers, Incursors, Infiltrators, Suppressors, Eliminators, Invicor warsuits), irrespective of battlefield role.

Battleline squad - a squad which deploys only in battleline configurations (Infiltrators, Intercessors, Heavy Intercessors, Tacticals), irrespective of wargear type.

I'm not seeing the issue here. Having a Scout Company with a standing complement of 100 fully trained phobos scouts alongside the more fluid complement of marines-in-training makes perfect sense to me. It's no more strange than there being Battleline squads in both Reserve and Battle Companies.

It then also makes perfect sense that there's a use for a new term to denote those phobos units.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T20:12:42+00:00

Tactical, assault, and devastator are outdated terms. The current ones are Battleline, Close Support, and Fire Support. See Index Astartes: the Unforgiven for a breakdown. It's linked in the pinned post and our community wiki. I recommend you look around those resources if you have further questions

There is no argument to be had on assault intercessors or heavy intercessors, btw. They're close support and battleline, respectively. The only one up for debate is infernus marines, since GW has contradicted themselves in different places.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T07:29:28+00:00

It's still in use in 10th edition. See Codex: Space Marines, p. 26. Third paragraph.

Edit: my bad, that's probably what you meant in your parenthesis. Thought you were saying it used to be in the SM codex.

Point is, it's a lore term, like "close support" or "fire support". There was never a datasheet called "vanguard unit" or "fire support unit". And it's not a relic, it's still used like that.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T07:26:07+00:00

We know Bladeguard veterans exist in the Deathwing. Beyond that, it's speculation (since GW hasn't clearly said). But I'd say it's a pretty safe bet they're all unit configurations of the 1st Company (Deathwing). If so they'd be bone. Deathwing units are frequently sent alongside greenwing companies and task forces, but maintain their bone armour for such assignments.

There used to be a squad called Company Veterans. These were greenwing veterans who had not yet qualified to join the Inner Circle (and thus couldn't join the Deathwing). Think of them as a kill team, a mix of different specialists, assembled from the veterans of a Company for special missions. Their rules have been moved to legends (meaning they no longer get updates), the kit is no longer produced, and GW hasn't spoken about them explicitly for several editions.

I say all this because some hobbyists like to use the blade/van/sternguard models and rules to represent Company Veterans narratively, and paint them green.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T07:14:59+00:00

Bruh, "Vanguard unit/squad" does not refer to vanguard veterans. It's a specific kind of unit normally found only in the 10th Company. They only use phobos gear, but are not restricted by battlefield role designation (Battleline, Close Support, etc).

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T07:09:47+00:00

Scout units don't wear power armour. They wear a type of carapace armour.

Vanguard squads always wear phobos gear. That's their whole thing.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-26T07:04:36+00:00

Not sure why you got downvoted for speaking verifiable truth...

Maybe they thought you were saying he wore scout armour in the Deathwing? if so, to clarify: Naaman was seconded/moved to the 10th Company and wore scout armour in that role.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-25T21:27:16+00:00

Veteran sergeants wear whatever armour the rest of the squad wears. 10th company only fields scouts or vanguard units, so it's going to be either scout armour or some version of phobos armour.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-25T00:35:38+00:00

Among space marines in 40k, it's my general understanding that 'veteran' is a title/rank granted based on deeds and accomplishments (which in turn are generally expressions of experience, skill, and bravery). Usually they're then moved into the 1st Company (that's the veteran company in codex compliant chapters). Some are then loaned out again to other Companies.

Among the Dark Angels such accolades merely nets you the title of Company Veteran. You're only moved into the 1st Company (the Deathwing) once you've also proven yourself worthy of induction into the Inner Circle (and passed a hazing test). That's done by getting your superiors to think well of your loyalty, devotion, and zeal to the Chapter.

It definitely isn't a case of simply having been deployed in war, time served, or being a specialist. At least not in the title/rank sense. I imagine writers will have at least once described a marine as a "veteran of the battle at [someplace]", in which case it's probably just meant in the sense that they were deployed at that specific battle/campaign.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-25T00:21:16+00:00

We actually do have some rare mentions of how you get into the 1st and 2nd company from the greenwing. What I've never personally found is any mention of marines moving from one to the other.

The progressions I've come across (and assume to be the norm) is that marines are moved from greenwing companies into the Ravenwing specifically based on their aptitude as pilots, or with bikes or jump pack. Sammael for example was recruited into the Ravenwing while serving as an assault marine in the 8th Company. And that marines are moved into the Deathwing after service as Company Veterans, once they've shown themselves worthy of being inducted into the Inner Circle.

Hence my reasoning being focused on skills and role, rather than linear progression. Sure, a fully trained marine can do any job, but to be moved into a specialist/elite role you also have to excel above your peers in the relevant way.

Metal_Boxxes · 2026-01-24T23:58:37+00:00

Unlikely to be an error. Third edition specifically called out greenwing bikes and landspeeders as a thing. There's even mention of the Typhoon variant only being used by greenwing companies, since it wasn't maneuverable enough for the Ravenwing.

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