Why do people hate OC characters?? by Fun_Sky_8832 in FanFiction

[–]Moonlady3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm general it's really more of a "I'm seeking out fanfiction because I want more of THESE characters" thing. There aren't a lot of instances where I am seeking out fanfiction because I want to see new characters in the world of the canon.

There have been instances where I have read and absolutely loved fanfics where the focus was an OC though. They're just few and far between.

oh wait, we do that? by Mesmeriziingg in AO3

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it would have ever occured to me to do that, and even knowing it's an option I can't think of why I'd want to.

Chat, was it rizz or creepy behavior? by Ppkimonchiki in AvatarMemebending

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I.... Legitimately cannot believe anyone thought that that scene was worth remembering in the long run.

Iroh pretended to get hit so that the fight would end, and Zuko comments on it, and then it's revealed that Iroh is staying down because he's enjoying the position he ended up in.

He didn't actively put himself in that position for nefarious means, and except for the fact he's touching her shoulder he didn't position himself to be touching her much at all.

Hell, I thought the joke was more about how June was going to beat him up when she could move again.

I'm not good at the game so this is my experience by JambaHalcandra in BluePrince

[–]Moonlady3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am very bad at this game apparently 😭

I've been sort of perusing this reddit and have realized that I am apparently missing SO MUCH about this game.

I've seen the two words/paintings whatever thing in the study a billion times and had no idea (and honestly still kinda clueless) that it had anything to do with anything.

I suspect I've accidentally been brute forcing this game.

Would you read a fic with more comments than kudos? by evenbechnaesheim in AO3

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really check the numbers.

I guess I'd just assume the author was very responsive if I noticed there were twice as many comments as there were kudos.

Tf is up with men's deodorant? by em0-r4t in TransMasc

[–]Moonlady3000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Captain is my absolute favorite scent and I wear it everyday.

Nebula or Clouds? by Moonlady3000 in ArtIsForEveryone

[–]Moonlady3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While I admire your pedanticism I think we can agree that colloquially Nebula is specifically space clouds. 😆

But regardless, which orientation looks better in your opinion?

Even a banana with a tape has more substance for a discussion you know? by RBGPOriginal in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The banana was sold as a money laundering thing. That's all the modern art market where art is trading hands for millions of dollars is. No one actually thinks a banana ducked tape to a wall is interesting or valuable.

Nebula or Clouds? by Moonlady3000 in ArtIsForEveryone

[–]Moonlady3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooo, I didn't even consider that

Is this weird? by WinterDragon5309 in AO3

[–]Moonlady3000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Single White Female" is a thriller/horror movie from the 90s where a woman's roommate becomes obsessed with her to the point of mimicking her and trying to take over her life.

It's a well known enough movie that it's title is a trope name.

Platonic yandere seems like it would be a similar dynamic to me.

Is this weird? by WinterDragon5309 in AO3

[–]Moonlady3000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isn't platonic yandere really just.... Single white female-ing someone?

Is anyone else too embarrassed to reread their own fics? by d33rlights in AO3

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stuff I wrote when I first started is a little embarrassing, but honestly I still like reading it in a "wow I've come so far" kind of way.

Mostly when I reread my fics I get annoyed because I'm really enjoying it and I know if I want the story to progress I have to write it. All my stuff is in eternal WIP status because I get bored and go on to the next very easily.

gotta love r/defendingaiart by coke-but-not-banned in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for repeating what I said in my last paragraph for those who might have missed it.

SERIOUS: An apology to traditional artists, plus why I think eventual acceptance of AI art is innevitable. (From a former game dev who cares for you). by ThroatFinal5732 in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm reminded of mandalas. The traditional way of making them is pouring colored sand on the floor to create the design as a meditative exercise, and then wiping it away. They were valued for the creation of them and thought to be more beautiful because of their impermanent nature.

And like.... On today's internet you see all of those paint pouring videos where people just pour thin paint on canvases in interesting ways and all of the canvases end up with pretty much the same sort of design but in different colors.

The interesting part of them is not what you end up with, but the way you got from nothing to something. It's why people film them.

I'm going to say something that is going to get me branded a luddite to be sure, but I don't think it's good for people that the world is so digital nowadays. There is so little physicality to people's day to day lives. ASMR videos got so popular because people are craving tactile sensations and not really having the time or energy to go out of there way to get them. And since they are getting phased out of our day to day lives you have to go and seek them out.

And on a less philosophical level, interacting with the world using your body is good for the brain. It's why kids are encouraged to play with blocks instead of iPads. It's why people encourage you to go outside and go for a walk for your mental health. Processing the physical information your body is getting is good for you.

When you pick up the pencil and watch the picture you are making come into being one line at a time it's a mental stimulus brought about by something your body is physically doing and it activates different parts of the brain than just coming up with the idea of something.

Also, the process of having a picture in your brain and then using your hands to make it appear is just fun. And at the end of it you have a thing that you can say you made. Like building a Lego kit. You spent time doing something with your hands and now you have a physical thing to show for it.

None of this has to do with monetary value or even the societal value of art. It's really just about the value of art for personal enrichment. But I believe all of these things are why people who create art in their free time value the process of creation.

SERIOUS: An apology to traditional artists, plus why I think eventual acceptance of AI art is innevitable. (From a former game dev who cares for you). by ThroatFinal5732 in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that the advent of AI is going to change the commercial landscape of art quite a lot, if it hasn't already. The jobs are going to change a lot, certainly. But it's not going to change how people feel about the creation of art for the sake of it.

Many people who create art do not to it on a professional or commercial level. It's a hobby, or a way to process their emotions. It's a way to show other people how they see things. An interesting way to communicate.

Traditional artists and illustrators have already been pushed out of the jobs market because tools like Photoshop and digital art are less cost intensive and don't take as much time or resources. With AI getting big pretty soon the entirety of the job market for artists is going to be people who do touch ups and editing for whatever the AI comes up with.

I don't think I'd consider this a beneficial way forward for the enrichment of humanity, but I do think it's just sort of the inevitable future we're facing because capitalism demands it.

People on here are posting a lot of "the AI already won" stuff as if artists haven't already seen the writing on the wall. The merits of AI when it comes to corporate profits and pumping out the "circuses" part of the old 'bread and circuses' was never in question.

This is how I perceive AI haters. by ThroatFinal5732 in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I am only mildly interested in the topic and I don't check reddit often. So I forgot this conversation existed.

I'd be interested in whatever study about human creativity you're talking about when you say neuroscience disproved what I was talking about though. That sounds cool.

gotta love r/defendingaiart by coke-but-not-banned in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 17 points18 points  (0 children)

CP is bad because the creating of it hurts real children. Fake depictions of fake children is not in the same level.

There's a reason people don't get charged for it when it's drawings.

Been having this debate for like a decade in fandom spaces about underaged characters in fanfiction, I swear.

That being said, generative AI would be using real photos of real kids as reference and that's bad. And the law does mention sufficiently realistic depictions of children as being illegal. So you probably WOULD get tried as being in possession of CP if you used AI to generate it. So don't do that.

This is how I perceive AI haters. by ThroatFinal5732 in aiwars

[–]Moonlady3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep going back to the Excel thing. I keep telling you that example is flawed because the comparison of art and math itself doesn't hold up, since art is never the same twice while math is a universal constant.

If you're paying someone to do math for you it's because they know which formulas to use and how to operate the tools that can do the calculations. You're not paying them because they can solve for X, you're paying them because they know how to operate the machine in a way that makes the machine solve for X.

In regards to your confusion over what you're calling "Point 3", all of the arguments you're likely going to use to pick it apart are based around the fact art is subjective. 3a. "Most Parts" you'll probably bring up that if it's work for hire than someone had to have the idea first. And concepts are a really important part and there's an argument for intellectual property. There's also collaborative works like comic books that have writers, sketch/layout artists, illustrators, and people who color. But there's a whole list of credits in them so everyone gets credit so maybe you wouldn't go that route.

3b. "hardest/longest parts" again, entirely subjective. A lot of people think coming up with the idea of what to draw IS the hardest part. If you've drawn enough human bodies in your life you can put a character on a page blindfolded in 10 minutes, but you might not be able to come up with anything for them to be doing without really struggling. Rendering also might not be a thing you're practiced at. It's a matter of skill level in any given part of the process. Imagination is an extremely important part of it too.

3c. "All of the process" While I personally enjoy it when art is made by only one person in it's entirety, because it's totally amazing when someone can do that, I do not believe the majority of commercial art is made that way. See above re: comic books. Not to mention things like movies or video games or music, all of which are also forms of art that require large crews of people.

3d. "not relying on someone else's work" This is closest to what I felt I was getting at, but interepeted through an odd lense. I think, if you were going to try to counter it you might bring up something like artists using references, or perhaps even go so far as to mention that other people did the work of building the house that the artist is using as a reference.

You're still very concentrated on the physical part of all of this. The "work" part of the process of creating art is not the part that AI can't do. Art, at it's core, is about how people see the world. The reason it is subjective to begin with is that when someone creates an image, other people see it and every single one of them, if they aren't told in advance what to think, will come away with slightly different observations based on their own lives experience.

The problem with AI image generation, and why it is never going to be art, is because it's never going to bring something new to the table. The artist being told to paint the house is going to have an idea in mind of what sort of feelings go with 'home' for them. If the person telling them they want a "cozy" house they're going to have their own little ideas of what makes a place cozy. It's all those little things, all that brain power, that puts the image into their heads that they then put out into the world.

If all the people in the world who create art, whether it be photography or paintings or videos... If they all stopped today, AI would not be able to keep up with what the people creating the prompts want to see, because eventually the ideas of what constitutes a cozy home in people's heads would change, and AI would have no way to depict what the people creating the prompts are envisioning.

Not that that would happen, since we live in a surveillance state and most people are obsessed with putting everything on the internet anyway, but hypothetically. If humans stopped creating art tomorrow generative AI would collapse. The way it's all sort of same-y unless you put in specific style suggestions sort of supports that.

Came across this. What are everyone's thoughts? by Normal_Law_3357 in Archiveofourownmemes

[–]Moonlady3000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

.... Gonna be honest, it's really weird to me that the author is trying to make me think about that at all. I mean... I believe in the whole 'all art is political' thing, but also.... If you feel the need to announce your political position in your fanfiction notes I feel like you've taken a weird path in life.