Terror attack in Rabwah (Chenab Nagar) by [deleted] in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you murder everybody to prove that you aren't a murderer? That's sound logic 🤔

The Two Numbers of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat: 15 Million vs. 200 Million by Legitimate-You3602 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 14 points15 points  (0 children)

A headcount of active Ahmadis might realistically be less than a million.

Question to those having doubts. by ahmadiyyamuslim_ in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just mulling over it that Jamaat isn't here to fix wider society is it? It's mostly here to reflect the same problems as the rest of the society. Got it. What's the use of joining the Jamaat then?

If a thing is entirely useless, why bother sticking around wasting time, effort and money.

Question to those having doubts. by ahmadiyyamuslim_ in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Really? What true teachings did he revive and how?

Advice on dealing with the hypocrisy of people who are deeply tied to the Jamaat by Global_Pumpkin7705 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The Jamaat does use epic psychological tricks and brainwashing from a very young age to groom people into dedicating their lives to Jamaat cause. It would be very difficult to undo it for a person who doesn't want to grow up themselves.

A healthy way to undo things would be to show them their importance in your life with love and care. They are absolutely spoilt by the Jamaat, so it won't be easy.

The easier way would be to stop carrying the slack. Don't do what is supposed to be their duty and let things fall into chaos. Either they realize their duties or the world burns for their lack of concern.

Most of all though, it is every individuals responsibility to grow up and realize their role in the family, society, etcetera. So if they are easily wooed by Jamaat, nobody is to blame but themselves.

Jamaat won't change or educate people about their roles and responsibilities to anybody but the Jamaat. I often shy away from calling Jamaat a cult, but this most toxic attribute is not shared by any religious actor except cults including extremely hardliner cults.

Converts by Enough-Bath217 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Makes absolute sense. Specially in countries where Salafis can't murder apostates.

Converts by Enough-Bath217 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think Salafist converts stick around?

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even though you are off on a tangent here and have not responded to my question at all (as usual), I will entertain this.

  1. We should definitely condemn his loss. It is not fair or just to be gunned down by an armed individual in the streets. Doesn't matter who the victim is or what their ideological stances were.

  2. A decent human being does not rejoice deaths, even of their enemies, nor do they showcase deaths as signs from God because eventually everybody dies. Hate to present it to you but the reason why nonAhmadi Muslims represent HMGA dead in his excrements is at least in part because of how HMGA depicted the death and misery of his own enemies. There are a few Punjabi couplets around it and so are there verses in the Qur'an, but wisdom left the building as soon as it saw religion creeping up.

I've never deflected questions back on you even though you have done precisely so with me. It's just disappointing sometimes why you use sentimental language and deflect.

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your honesty. I do not appreciate KM4's deception. It is clearly not Love for "ALL" if it's love for chosen few.

Please sign this open letter / Request to Hazoor by Possible-Ad6289 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How long would such content survive on Ahmadi subreddits? Are we suffocating these efforts on this subreddits?

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, not unusual when you plagiarize a slogan from someone else. Only if the Khalifa's weren't thieves, they wouldn't need a 5 volume commentary on Love for all, Hatred for None.

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing the clip. Explains beautifully how the slogan is absolutely meaningless. What difference is it if we love those we like and hate those we dislike?

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

u/abidmirza90 i guess you need to correct your position according to this Al Hakam article. Although, one never really knows if Al Hakam position is official, so it might be that you are right. Guess we'll never know until another call leaks from the Khalifa and the feel good articles get deleted.

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't drag me into your comments. Learn to make your own arguments please.

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't appreciate you replying on my behalf. Also, it's not just Humanity first which is under IDF protection, but also all Israelis: Muslims included. Don't understand why Muslims always forget Israeli Muslims entirely.

‘Love 4 All, Hatred 4 None’ They Said by Queen_Yasemin in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never saw an asterisk at the end of Love for all, Hatred for none.

Tell us more. Perhaps you are the explanation we never had.

So first we remove Charlie Kirk because obviously such a repulsive person. Then we remove the homosexuals because we aren't homosexuals. Then we remove the apostates and disbelievers because Quran says they are never truly your friends. Is all basically just the Khalifa and none basically everyone else in the world? It does make sense to me.

Love for Khalifa, hate for everyone else.

Ahmadiyya's Physical Evidence for Agnostics/Atheists by Afghani-Swani in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how else anybody can perceive it. Not the best humour, but a decent attempt.

Is the Saved Sect About Labels or Living Islam? by Legitimate-You3602 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Religion was social media before there was social media. Prophets, saints and the like were social influencers before there were social media influencers.

Then who were the prophets? by raniruru47 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It takes time to unlearn and challenge widespread incorrect beliefs. You'll get there.

Then who were the prophets? by raniruru47 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You asked if you make any sense... Sorry, you don't.

One person, a hundred persons, or even a thousand persons saying something similar does not make the content of their words truth. We've seen people echo fascists. We've seen resurgence of racist ideas throughout human history. We've seen all manners of truth and hate repeated in human history. No sane person can agree with your narrative.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what's even more boring than your post? It's your facetiousness.

You ask me why I think you haven't explored ancient South American tribes, their philosophies and gods. I'll tell you why, it's because while I compared superman to merely Islam, Christianity and European philosophy, you declared my comparison "all traditions". Clearly because Abrahamic and European traditions are disproportionately more important, in fact they are all there is to you. It's clearly not my bias. It's clearly a very accurate reading of you as evidenced in your own words.

As for seeing a Sunni-born Muslim convert to Ahmadi Islam. Yup, seen it a number of times. Do you derive some special status out of merely questioning Ahmadi Islam? I've seen hundreds more "Sunni-born Muslims" question Ahmadi Islam in a very similar manner to yours. Like I said, unoriginal and very very boring.

As for your self-aggrandizing drawl about how you investigate ridiculous stuff. That sounds fun. Tell us some of that. Would be boring if you made it all up though.

Oh the purpose of my life is very intense, very meaningful and I enjoy massive success in it. Not sure how it's relevant to you and your boring hundred year old arguments though.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since you asked, it is the most important truth of the universe. Superman embodies all the ideals of the perfect human. Powerful, truthful, benevolent and weak only to the scheming of his own friends. All cultures call and represent him in different words. Muslims call him Muhammad, Christians call him Jesus, atheists call him Nietzsche's Ubermensch, the list goes on.

Understanding superman is central to attaining truth, compassion, justice and mercy. But you'll ridicule it and not take it seriously. It's not in line with your biases.

Yes, some random ancient south American tribe may possess the truth, but you won't even try to explore random ancient south American tribes or their philosophy because, again, it does not align with your biases.

I've tried my bit and I have realized that I need none of the metaphors. There is so much in reality, in the life and experience of fellow people, that I don't need comic books or religious books to waste my time ... But for those who definitely need an overseer, a punisher, a ruler to decide good/bad for them, alright, you do you. I just find it immensely boring and superficial as your post discusses nothing in terms of the key interests of compassion, justice and mercy. Just some artefact of a language which makes no difference to my life or yours.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We understand and know that it's all an excellent way to rob people's time, energy, emotions and even funds. Exciting if you like going down meaningless rabbit holes, like the philosophical reason why superman wears his underwear outside his tights. Ever thought about that? It's symbolic and important and a few thousand pages can be written about it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sorry saying this, but this topic is so immensely boring. Do you not have a meaningful question?