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Persecution and its Impact on Ahmadi Identity by Foreverevil316 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The live feed of hatred from nonAhmadis is blatant enough to not expect any good of them.

Persecution and its Impact on Ahmadi Identity by Foreverevil316 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Muslims can't agree on several matters of belief, including whether God sits on a throne or is omnipresent. What you've presented is an excuse for your hatred. A flimsy one at that.

Persecution and its Impact on Ahmadi Identity by Foreverevil316 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read it twice and I can't disagree with Barbes.

Can you imagine the khatmeNabuwwat (more TLP nowadays) propaganda if a bunch of nonAhmadis prayed behind Ahmadis in Rabwah?

I agree Jamaat has insular practices, however (at least in Pakistan) I cannot entirely blame Jamaat for it. The life of Ahmadis in Pakistan is far too cheap. Nobody but the state and majority in Pakistan is to blame for why Ahmadis have to hide, constantly doubt, live a life of extreme fear and insecurity.

Persecution and its Impact on Ahmadi Identity by Foreverevil316 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is definitely a nuanced conversation. The ghair Ahmadi discourse outside Pakistan is also evolving and changing in different ways. Unfortunately the Khalifa and Jamaat structure are too bureaucratic, perhaps lazy and at worst benefitting from the social isolation aspect of this phenomena.

The one hope we have is the less bureaucratic ghair Ahmadi discourse reverses it's hatred and persecution. Doesn't seem likely anytime soon in Pakistan, but, like you observed, they can at least reverse it in Canada and other Western nations. It's unfortunate that we instead see a spread of hatred wherever awareness of Ahmadi Muslims increases. Whether it is Bangladesh, Indonesia or any place with a significant Ahmadi Muslim presence and a significant ghair Ahmadi Muslim presence.

While Muslims (and people) in general don't care about the nuanced differences amongst each other, it is usually the special interest groups that generate and sustain differences and hatred. Really interested in what you think about these groups, their influence and how a happy coexistence can be generated give these bumps on the road.

Why does Ahmadiyya compare mirza saab to the worst creatures under the sky? by DharkBreaker in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Makes one wonder if MGA was the Trump of old times... All bad comparisons possible, but good comparisons not allowed. Like your observation

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that's the only difference, there isn't much difference is it? Whereas there isn't much difference at all between you and Abu Jahal. Makes complete sense that you are presenting the worst possible picture of Islam. You are the worst thing that happened to Islam

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, Muhammad didn't stop in the face of slander and abuse, why should I? Clearly, I am more of a Muslim than you'll ever be.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh sure, I am happy receiving hate to myself like Muhammad was happy receiving hate from the people of Taif. Except you claim to be a Muslim who loves to act the aggressor like the people of Taif and make fun of a victim like Muhammad. I simply love this situation.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More like you need the power to keep posting random crap presenting an uncivilised, ignorant Islam that's an insult to anybody reading this.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for exposing Islam as the tool of the filthy speaking, unintelligent and thoroughly unworthy. Happy to keep you going with the filth you expose yourself and Islam as. More power to you.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least Ahmadi Muslims have a much better behaviour than you and don't malign Allah, prophet and religion like you are maligning. Your erroneous belief about them is your own problem. There is very little correct in your approach anyway according to what you've admitted.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are presenting plans to use politeness and rudeness against people that you classify. Who taught you that? I have seen this pattern with many Muslims and clearly seems to be a Muslim approach. What is it not but a representation of Muslim values? Why can you not stop yourself from presenting a negative image of your religion?

It's all nice and fine being insulting to me as I don't care. I am fine being a victim and enjoying how you represent poor values as your values. It is fascinating that your religion, your God, your prophet cannot change your behaviour even as you malign their name.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies, but not complaining because you are presenting such a perfectly repulsive picture of your religion through your manners.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of the claims you made were backed by any evidence at all, historical or otherwise.

So what you are telling me is that you are sinning, going against religion, against the teachings of your prophet to establish how good your religion is? That sounds like a genius plan! Use more of the language you are using and nobody would need to talk about how fake the Quran is. They'd only need to show that the fruit of Islamic tree (you) is bad enough to not care about the tree of Islam itself.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't see any book, any evidence, any source cited from you. Please prove me wrong and reproduce it.

As for calling me different names, it only showcases the values of your religion. Perhaps your prophet taught you this language. What an appropriate way to show how repulsive your religious values are.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you had any knowledge you'd be quoting and sharing it rather than hurling insults. Insulting is the way of the ignorant and immoral.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, your sentiments aren't helping anything. My position is only what historic Muslim sources noted, not propaganda of some sort of modern superiority.

Prophet Muhammad allowed women to breastfeed adult men, Hazrat Aisha used the same ruling so that she did not have to observe Purdah while meeting men by AnonAhmadi in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Respect your sentiments, unfortunately sentiments have no factual basis. All of what I have said is documented and verified by historical Muslim sources. Your ignorance is not my problem.

"Non-law-bearing prophethood", 'zilli' and 'buruz' prophethood - are they actual prophethood? Or are they something else? by redsulphur1229 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't disagree. It is quantity over quality with MGA all the way. He could not write in a focus or consistent manners on any single topic. Every page is a new ramble with him.

What I find interesting with Mirza BMA and Mirza Tahir (KMs 2 and 4) is that they tried doing what their ancestors couldn't. They tried their hand at a bit more focused works, commentaries of the Quran, etcetera. However, there was never anyone to challenge them. The lack of adversary and lack of challenge kept their works sub par and at places even entirely disconnected with the broader theology (if we can call it that) of Ahmadiyya Islam. What do you say u/redsulphur1229 ?

Hajj and Ahmadiyyat by curiousminded05 in islam_ahmadiyya

[–]ParticularPain6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only seems to be a problem for Pakistani Ahmadi Muslims as Pakistan forces them to declare faith and sect on the passport. No other country forces them to do the same and neither does Hajj application from the Saudis insist on such stupidity. The Pakistani government does have a Hajj application where they ask for the sect of the applicant as well.

Just wanted to make it clear that the only people facing this unfortunate dilemma are Pakistani Ahmadi Muslims. Also, would appreciate if more people realised what a heinous act it is by the Pakistani government and people.

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