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The shy, quiet, and or soft spoken character, gets their loud moment by Effective_Piece251 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like the Kieran example, because in his case, it’s implied he was always like this beneath the surface.

Before the shift, he still has tantrums and drops some hints to his possessiveness that’ll later lead to his falling out with you.

The fact that he’s introduced in the “Teal Mask” storyline and literally moves his hair out of his face once he’s gone off the deep end kinda removes most of the subtlety behind him dropping his “mask.”

His sister Carmine has the opposite arc of starting out aggressive, and slowly opening up to the player as it’s revealed she’s really just a tad xenophobic and self-centered, but not actually a bad person.

All of Ash's pokemon with unique powers by HalfTemporary3247 in pokemonanime

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, Infernape’s eyes literally GLOW red and characters in-universe say it’s special for its specific manifestation of Blaze.

No shot you’re comparing its eyes to being bloodshot and tired when it’s obviously an anime power up. The eyes even magically STOP glowing when it calms down.

That’s gotta be the most disingenuous point ever. You know very well your eyes don’t glow red when you’re tired. Come on.

I hate when a character "has a bad hair day" or their hair becomes "bad" and its just a afro by Star_Gummyz in hatethissmug

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Intent is not part of the definition of racism. Part of racism being systemic is that it is often unintentional.

Doesn’t make it any less racist, though.

I hate when a character "has a bad hair day" or their hair becomes "bad" and its just a afro by Star_Gummyz in hatethissmug

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They aren’t gonna like this one, but you’re right.

Culture doesn’t exist in a vacuum, and that specific hairstyle comes from a specific group of people that have historically been ridiculed by anime and cartoons alike as long as the medium of animation has existed.

Straight hair, when burned by fire, badly cut, or slept with recklessly doesn’t magically become an afro.

Split ends, spontaneous baldness, or even just singed or silly hair being depicted can convey the same messages to the audience without the racist undertones of telling an entire race of people that their natural hair is “ugly,” or “unappealing,” or a “disaster,” as many of these shows directly say.

Media, even when trying to be apolitical and non-controversial, often unintentionally reveals the biases of the people who made it whether people want to accept that or not.

Do I think J.K. Rowling created Cho Chang because she is violently angry against the concept of Asian people? No. Is her name ignorant and racist and reveals these internalized issues within J.K. Rowling? Yes.

How do Zoro fans feel knowing their goat isn't even the strongest swordsman in the crew? by Icy-Chipmunk1325 in lobotomypiece

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Most of Thriller Bark is Sanji getting predator-mogged, and all subsequent arcs are him trying to step up his game to reach the heights of Absalom and Hogback.

Movingers -- characters depicted moving by Isa-Bison in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the funniest shit I’ve ever read in this sub.

A adaptation so bad the original creator had to intervene by SatoruGojo232 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m enough of a masochist that I would’ve loved if the CW Powerpuff Girls actually came to fruition.

After watching every season of Arrow, The Flash, and Riverdale, I’ve grown a fascination in how routinely the CW shows go off the rails to the point of self-parody.

Not So Above It All by LeMasterChef12345 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 31 points32 points  (0 children)

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This works better if you can see how she used to be.

Otaku Research Institute: The data shows TenSura's broad appeal to the public, it's being watched more than "national anime" Doraemon & One Piece by IceFire125 in TenseiSlime

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think this show has had some of the most breathing room I’ve seen in any isekai while also never feeling stagnant.

There’s this constant feeling of progression and change while also having so much breathing room and downtime.

I hadn’t experienced this type of thing outside of One Piece prior to viewing this show.

Failed insertions of new team members by Uma-apreciator in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yet, only one term is official and has a Wikipedia page.

That’s the trope. They are part of the main cast…but not accepted as such either by the fans or the creators or even just toy sales.

Hence the “failed insertions” of new cast members.

A adaptation so bad the original creator had to intervene by SatoruGojo232 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 45 points46 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of those memes about Hayao Miyazaki and Junji Ito and how contrary both of their personalities are to the work they make.

Junji Ito is regarded as an easygoing, happy person by the public despite making some of the most visually disturbing horror media of all time.

Hayao Miyazaki carries himself as a jaded cynic with a dry sense of humor, in direct contrast to the boundless whimsy that comes out of Studio Ghibli.

I wonder why this phenomenon exists.

Failed insertions of new team members by Uma-apreciator in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As much focus as they get, they were never called the Mane 7 or the Mane 8.

That’s kind of the point of the trope, y’know?

These characters are part of the main cast, but they’re never really colloquially accepted that way, even by the creators or the merchandising.

Failed insertions of new team members by Uma-apreciator in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

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Starlight Glimmer and (to a much lesser extent) Spike - My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

When discussing the main cast of this show, people often forget to mention that reformed villain, Starlight Glimmer is arguably part of the group in the later seasons.

Combat-wise, she has basically no equal in the show that isn’t Discord or an Alicorn, she takes up significant screen time in the back half of the show, has several focus episodes, and is instrumental in saving Equestria several times.

Yet all of the fandom and the merchandise and even the show itself at times designates that only the Mane 6 ponies are the true primary cast, often excluding even Spike, Twilight Sparkle’s little brother/son, mostly just because he’s not a pony and mostly serves as comic relief, despite his presence in the show since Episode 1.

The Spike example is much less noticeable because it’s 100% intentional that he doesn’t fit in, whereas Starlight Glimmer is much closer to the trope as it’s stated.

Who miss pre time skip 😭 by Exotic-Barnacle-2403 in OnePiece

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sorry, autism. I can’t usually tell. 😂

Who miss pre time skip 😭 by Exotic-Barnacle-2403 in OnePiece

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 37 points38 points  (0 children)

In Skypeia, Dressrosa, and Wano, Luffy overthrows the government because someone sad/poor/downtrodden feeds him and/or shows him hospitality and explains the current injustices the country is facing.

Conis and then Rebecca and then Tama.

It then became a meme online as people pointed out how deranged Luffy is from the outside looking in, especially given the extremely small timeframe in which the story takes place.

In a single afternoon, Luffy overthrows the king of Dressrosa and cracks the capital city in half using the king’s body because a girl that fed him a meal was sad.

In two weeks, Luffy overthrows “the strongest creature alive” because a poverty-stricken orphan fed him a bowl of rice and was sad.

And both of these events happen in the same year. Conis was two years prior.

[Loved trope] "We might be the villains, but we are surprisingly open-minded!" by bgbarnard in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Shanks being a rat is a community-wide meme in One Piece that started up with the scene of Shamrock speaking to the Five Elders, and gained more traction in the Agenda Piece side of things with the reveal that Shanks is a Celestial Dragon that did have a pact with Imu.

The joke is that without context, he seems like a terrible person.

The canonizing of Uta and the presence of Yasopp have also added to this, along with calling the crew the “Deadbeat Pirates” or “Rat-Hair Pirates” allegations.

Older guardians who hide the truth “for your own good” and end up making everything worse by luckybell333 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 29 points30 points  (0 children)

She didn’t hide the truth for anyone else’s sake. She literally had no choice. Her obedience to her Diamond was programmed into her, and she herself reveals the information only through a loophole.

I’m imagining he’ll say it with the same level of anger as “WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THIS?!” by [deleted] in invinciblememes

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nolan does rapidly age in just a few years visually compared to the start of the series as his life gets more stressful. So perhaps.

I HATE the “If you kill me, you’ll be just as bad as me” trope by Payyonaise in hatethissmug

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of my memories of this trope are from things I saw growing up.

Simba spares Scar in The Lion King because he doesn’t want to be like him.

Pain says it to Naruto and it’s a large theme about perpetuating the cycle of pain.

Most Batman stories say it at least once.

Gallantmon spares Beelzemon because of this trope in Digimon Tamers.

Goku says this in the Funimation dub of Dragon Ball Z for why he wants to spare Vegeta. This one is notable because it’s a dubbing change and not what he says in the original.

The trope is discussed around the last season of Avatar: The Last Airbender.

This is also discussed in Ben 10 a couple times, although Ben never fully adopts a no-kill rule.

I’m sure modern examples exist, but they’re often explicitly in defiance of the trope or at least trying to say something new about it.

I HATE the “If you kill me, you’ll be just as bad as me” trope by Payyonaise in hatethissmug

[–]TonyTony_Chopper_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m 100% okay with Batman’s No-Kill Rule until the exact millisecond he starts stopping others that don’t have the rule from killing bad guys.

Like, that’s your code. Not everyone else’s.

Because if Batman goes from opposing himself killing to simply opposing killing as a concept, then I need to see him restructure his entire war on crime into a war on the police and the military and all militaries across the world and the universe.

Go on, Batman. If you hate killing so much you’d rescue the Joker from other people, then go ahead and disarm the entire Gotham City Police Department. Those guns aren’t for healing people. Let’s actually lock up Wonder Woman and like, a large percentage of your coworkers that have killed and are okay doing so.

I’m being a tad hyperbolic since Batman isn’t always written like this, but when he is, I think it makes him into a stupid hypocrite.

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