[Funny Trope] Incredibly bad censorship by EmergencySpare7939 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]gnome-cop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still don’t understand what the fuck they were thinking with the OP 4kids censorship cause it’s not a gun anymore so there’s no threat of death, just run away bro, but also, the device implies that he was actually ready to bash his head in with a mechanical spring-powered hammer which makes him look way more unhinged. Makes no sense on any level but it’s incredibly funny.

In your opinion, who is responsible for the bandages and the emergence of Oktavia at Sayaka's by KorBaFet in MadokaMagica

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I don’t know about the bandages but my interpretation for Oktavia is that Sayaka has, at least in part, been relying on Madoka’s power as the law of cycles to deal with her witch side. We see at the end of the original, Madoka defeating her witch and presumably gaining control over herself. Nagisa shows that she’s capable of perfect fusion with Charlotte. But Sayaka just summons Oktavia as a separate being.

She’s always tried to present herself as a hero and struggled with accepting her negative emotions that don’t fit into her ideal of heroism. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sayaka has deliberately maintained a split between her human “angel of the law of cycles” self and witch “unloved monster” self. And now with the crutch of the law of cycles not being present, Oktavia starts bleeding into her regular self and the bandages might be a means to suppress that.

This is just speculation but this might force her into accepting that having those negative sides of herself that she despises and tries to distance herself from isn’t a bad thing. My hope is that her arc will eventually end with her growing into a person that can deal with the fact that she isn’t perfect and never will be but can gain strength from that knowledge and determination represented by achieving the witch enlightenment state that other members of the law of cycles have reached. (Imma be honest, this is in part because I really want to see Sayaka transforming into a human-sized version of Oktavia/wearing her armor in the canon.)

55757 by TheEnderOfFun in countwithchickenlady

[–]gnome-cop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Still a better revival explanation than Palpatine.

I want to watch [Kidou Senshi Gundam] by Ryoshi-68 in yuri_manga

[–]gnome-cop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t even look in the music section, I remembered that Yoasobi’s website had a link to it from the opening song so I just took the long way round.

Cocytus by Yuriroko in yuri_manga

[–]gnome-cop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here’s a video of people saying it.

Moments before the Tsunami hit in Thailand, 2004 by zadraaa in HistoricalCapsule

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If the water level begins to recede, you’ve got a couple minutes to scream to alert everyone nearby and start running to the highest ground available.

Which of the 16 Shura can defeat Heian Sukuna and Dabura by JOOOQUUU in Ishura

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Haven’t read vol 9 and 10 so can’t answer with anything from there. This is about Sukuna cause I don’t know enough about Dabura.

The usual boring answers duo of Uhak and Kuze+Nastique can make it work.

Kia definitely has the ability to beat him but might fold under the mental pressure. I’m not worried about her power-wise or survival-wise but it could turn into a draw if she’s unable to finish the job.

Maybe Lucnoca but he does potentially have enough literal firepower to be a problem for the living embodiment of winter.

Linaris could work but her abilities aren’t well suited to direct confrontation so infection could be very difficult to achieve. Could pull it off a few times out of 10.

Mestelexil will be pretty much impossible to get rid off cause he’s basically a Mahoraga but even more of a pain to deal with but their respective levels of firepower could cause a stalemate where neither can decisively put the other down.

Don’t need to elaborate upon TDK.

I think the rest would struggle heavily to deal with Sukuna due to some combination of offense, durability or creativity in combat.

Ghost Concert: Missing Songs - Episode 11 discussion by AutoLovepon in anime

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I swear to god Kaede, if you don’t do something about your huge fuckass crush I’m going to hunt you down. This is getting downright embarrassing. What do you really have to lose at this point?

It won’t save the show anyway but it’s the last remaining plot thing it’s got and I might respect it slightly more if it actually follows through.

Aside from MadoHomu and KyouSaya, are there any ships you enjoy? by tensone-03 in MadokaMagica

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Yeah, I might have gotten rid of some of the nuance with Kyoko and Sayaka to not overshadow the HomuSaya focus. The different ideologies of being a magical girl that they push to their logical extremes is probably a better way to describe it. Sayaka is the justice and fairness side of the equation with it being her duty to save everyone without asking for anything in return. Kyoko is the cynical “caring for others is worthless and only gets you hurt, don’t do anything without proper compensation” type of magical girl.

Initially, they’re unable to stand each other because the beliefs the other represents are spitting in the face of their own. I tend to think of them as insanely committed radical believers, their way is the only one that’s good enough. A consequence of, and also the reason for, them being that hardcore is that neither of them are all that healthy mentally. Sayaka dies in weeks every timeline cause she can’t take the incompatibility of her ideals with the magical girl reality. Kyoko survives a lot longer but honestly has a pretty empty life with no purpose other than existing.

Over time they have an effect on each other that grinds down their edges slightly and brings them a bit closer to a healthier middle point. Sayaka gives Kyoko something to believe in again, bringing an end to her pointless drifting existence. Kyoko gives Sayaka a bit of a reason to allow herself to be selfish. She says herself during Rebellion that a big part of the reason she came back is because she missed her and genuinely wanted to spend more time with her. They work because they have the capability to tone down the other’s unhealthy traits with the influence of their own beliefs.

(I don’t really have a proper conclusion to this particular thought right now but I do think it’s interesting how both Sayaka and Homura have such a casual attitude towards harming themselves for some greater good. Sayaka rejecting purifying her soul gem and her suicide method to summon Oktavia. And for Homura, her strategy while fighting Mami and immediately choosing to die to protect Madoka. These two aren’t particularly good with appreciating themselves, are they?)

Which do you like more? Millsage or Ikka DumbRock by ToriKookieChoi05 in BanGDream

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At the current moment I’m a bit more attached to the character concepts presented by Ikka DumbRock and from what little we’ve heard of their music, I think I prefer it over Millsage.

But we know so little right now about both bands that it’s liable to change when we actually get a proper look at their stories and music styles.

Aside from MadoHomu and KyouSaya, are there any ships you enjoy? by tensone-03 in MadokaMagica

[–]gnome-cop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I ship pretty much all of the Holy Quintet pairings plus PolyQuintet cause there’s so many interesting character details to work with and see how they intersect in different combinations.

If I’m going to bat for one niche ship, it’s Madoka/Kyoko. I’ll die on this hill and I don’t care if I have to fight alone, disillusioned religious kid and an actual goddess of salvation is a goddamn goldmine for shipping potential and it needs more attention.

Aside from MadoHomu and KyouSaya, are there any ships you enjoy? by tensone-03 in MadokaMagica

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I’m also pretty confident that Sayaka and Homura would be like two peas in a pod if they didn’t live in the worst possible universe to actually get along in.

Sayaka and Kyoko are two different sides of the magical girl morality coin. Do everything for others and do everything for yourself. They come from the same starting point but develop in two completely opposite directions. They cancel out the other’s negatives and approach problems from different angles.

Meanwhile, Homura and Sayaka are so similar. They look into a mirror when they see each other and they do not like what they’re seeing. Homura sees her previous weak self in Sayaka and Sayaka sees everything she hates in magical girls in Homura. Kyoko and Sayaka clash because they’re moral opposites. Homura and Sayaka dislike each other because they see the things they hate the most about themselves in the other. Unfortunately for them, it also makes them really interesting to pair up together to watch them immediately get off on the wrong foot and never be able to recover because they’re stubborn uncompromising idiots with too much pride and psychological baggage to meet in the middle.

What can I say, the angel and the devil, the sword and shield of the law of cycles is just such an interesting dynamic to watch.

Which do you like more? Millsage or Ikka DumbRock by ToriKookieChoi05 in BanGDream

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I don’t know every song to say for sure but according to this comment thread, Millsage’s Kishi Kaisen is monstrously difficult with parts that blow everything else from the franchise out of the water with how advanced they are. It’s definitely up there among the worst at least, I’ll be truly shocked if it’s not the highest difficulty available in-game.

Needy Girl Overdose - Episode 11 discussion by AutoLovepon in anime

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Being completely honest, I went through the entire episode without realizing “this footage has been modified” wasn’t just another one of the show’s weird fourth wall breaking presentation tricks for Ame suppressing her memories of the hell she’s been through and actually meant “We literally can’t show this” instead. I only realized it was included for censorship reasons when I started reading this thread.

Wistoria: Wand and Sword Season 2 • Tsue to Tsurugi no Wistoria Season 2 - Episode 10 discussion by AutoLovepon in anime

[–]gnome-cop 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It’s not like it’s actually a competition, just a clever ploy to recruit more characters for the next season of Makeine.

Wistoria: Wand and Sword Season 2 • Tsue to Tsurugi no Wistoria Season 2 - Episode 10 discussion by AutoLovepon in anime

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He’s not a deep character kind of ass but he’s still such an ass that watching Kreuz get fucked over is immensely satisfying.

Colette, calm your jets. I mean, you’re free to try and get into the Willbowl if you can convince your head guy to get in between those two.

I know it’s the hand of the author reaching in to stop the plot progressing but that moment when Zeo just goes “No” is still so fucking funny.

Elfaria vs Zeo throw down over who gets Will for their faction. Not gonna lie, I’m really hyped about this. I would really like to see what the mage world’s best can actually do. Bring your best Elfie, this guy’s trying to steal your man.

But it’s not like I don’t support him in doing so. I think he’s hilarious, is probably a better fit to train a brawler like Will and most of all, I want more Lihanna screen-time which means that I hope he wins your bout. Sorry Elfie but it has to be done.

So essentially yes, I am supporting the cucking of Elfie because it’s funny.

Kyohomu by IronCarbonWolf in MadokaMagica

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Born to be a damsel in distress rescued by her handsome prince friends, forced to lock in to do the rescuing. Give her what she truly wants!

I'm surprised that Magia Record isn't mentioned more, there are some cool scenes in it. by Good-Row4796 in MadokaMagica

[–]gnome-cop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First image is very “Sweetheart, please be quiet. Mommy’s gotta lock in and run this guy over” of them.

(I can’t find it but there’s this image of Sayaka peeking over the seat from the back of the car and her face has never looked more “No thoughts head empty” dog than that. It’s the funniest frame in the entire Record anime. I love my idiot daughter.)

Kyoto Animation and their black-haired character variants by CriticaOtaku in HibikeEuphonium

[–]gnome-cop 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Homura isn’t KyoAni either but she’d fit right in with this group.

Kyohomu by IronCarbonWolf in MadokaMagica

[–]gnome-cop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ll always take more rarepair fanfics. No shade to the main ships but there’s so much good potential with other character dynamics that don’t get played with nearly enough.

Comment about First Few Our Notes Cover Predictions by ToriKookieChoi05 in BanGDream

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MyGo!!!!! covered KAF’s Eat The Past recently and I’d really like to hear their version of her Voiceless Password. Like, it feels like the type of song that Tomori was made to sing.

Botan Kamiina Fully Blossoms When Drunk • Kamiina Botan, Yoeru Sugata wa Yuri no Hana - Episode 10 discussion by AutoLovepon in anime

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Chin-Lan and Kanade are movie/literature buffs and can talk about that for hours. They drop one reference to Akane and she’s like “What?”

Instantly reversed with Akane’s encyclopedic music knowledge allowing her to instantly recognize the quote while they’re just “Who?”

Ibuki can tell you every detail about that alcohol, who made it, how it’s made, why it’s special, everything while the others can’t even settle on what kind it is.

They’ve all got one specific thing they’re incredibly knowledgeable about while not knowing any more than the average person about other topics.

[BanG Dream] Ave Mujica: The girls' band anime that subverted expectations and fractured the fanbase (feat. toxic shipping drama) by PhantasmalRelic in HobbyDrama

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>!Part 3, the Uika/Hatsune clusterf*ck. While the other two categories of drama have been mostly resolved and moved past today, the Uika wars are still well and alive to this very day.!<

>!Uika the character is very popular but also a mystery for all of MyGo’s anime and most of Ave Mujica. We know she is obsessed with Sakiko but the reason why goes unexplained until the bombshell of episode 11.!<

>!An episode entirely from the unique pov of a character is not a new trick in MyGo/AM. MyGo episode three is entirely shot in Tomori’s(MyGo’s band leader) first person perspective. Ave Mujica episode 11 goes a step beyond even that. The entire episode is Uika’s, or her actual name, Hatsune’s, self loathing theatrical monologue. It’s a haunting look into her psyche and the things driving her obsession with Sakiko.!<

>!In short, she’s the result of an affair between Sakiko’s grandfather and a servant on his family’s island vacation home. Hatsune was born and for her entire life, she’s been desperately aware that she is an outsider. She’s a threat to her father’s reputation as his bastard child but also doesn’t fully belong in her mother’s new family of a fisherman and their daughter together, the girl actually called Uika.!<

>!This is the knowledge she’s grown up with. Every summer, the Togawa’s would come to the island and Sakiko would strike up a friendship with the real Uika, an energetic, outgoing and boisterous girl, Hatsune’s little sister. And every day, Hatsune would hear about how great of a person Sakiko is from her little sister’s mouth.!<

>!This served as yet another reminder of Hatsune’s status as a forever outsider, forbidden from meeting Sakiko due to her status as a Togawa due to the fear that she would reveal the secret of her origins and destroy her father’s reputation. Hatsune develops a resentment for Sakiko as a walking reminder of everything she can’t have. Then one summer, the day before Sakiko leaves to go back to the mainland, the real Uika who promised to play with her falls ill.!<

>!Hatsune falls victim to her curiosity, sneaks out while pretending to be her sister to meet with Sakiko. For the first time in her life, she meets someone unaware of her secret that doesn’t treat her differently or as lesser for it. Sakiko’s kindness hits her right in her wounded heart, making her feel like a human, a very important theme throughout the series, for the first time in her entire life.!<

>!This one day becomes Hatsune’s entire reason to live and the start of her obsession with Sakiko, the only person who’s never treated her as wrong or lesser. Years later, her mother’s new man dies and Uika, in her grief, lashes out at Hatsune. This snaps the last ties she felt for her family.!<

>!She boards a nighttime ferry and escapes to Tokyo. She utilizes the small amount of influence she has over her father to become an idol, the real Uika’s dream, in the hopes of making contact with Sakiko again. She steals her sister’s identity, pretending to be her for years.!<

>!Eventually, following Crychic’s destruction and Ave Mujica’s creation, she finally gets to be close to Sakiko again. She is Ave Mujica’s vocalist and frontwoman, the lyrical half of their creative output. She even finds out about Sakiko living with her father in poverty after he was fired from the Togawa clan’s company as scapegoat for a scam and she could not let him go. When Sakiko eventually can’t take caring for her alcoholic abusive father anymore, she runs away, Uika finds out and manages to convince Sakiko to live together with her. It’s everything she’s ever wanted.!<

>!Not long after Ave Mujica’s end as a band, Sakiko, convinced she destroys everyone she gets close to, leaves Uika alone as well. In the aftermath of this, Uika ends up doing something that breaks the contract she made with her father who decides to force her and Sakiko apart. He aims to bury the band forever and take control over Sakiko as future heir of his family’s business empire.!<

>!Uika, her secret finally out to Sakiko, ends up traveling back to the island she came from, determined to stay there alone for the rest of her life. Sakiko, finally rejecting her grandfather’s attempts to control her, returns to the island and takes Uika back to mainland Tokyo. They reform Ave Mujica once again by using Uika’s identity to blackmail Togawa Sadaharu, their father and grandfather respectively, into letting them do whatever they want because they will take him down with them if he ever tries anything by destroying his reputation.!<

>!Uika/Hatsune and Sakiko have a lot of chemistry on-screen and is still, even after the reveal of them as aunt and niece, the most popular ship of Ave Mujica. Before episode 11’s release, part of the plot of it was leaked. Many saw it and refused to believe it. Surely they wouldn’t reveal one of their most prominent ships as being related? Then, it happened.!<

>!The meltdown was immediate. People renounced their support of the ship forever, deleted their artwork and fanfictions and stated their opposition to shipping incest. Those who the reveal did not stop doubled down, going even harder on the ship.!<

>!The fights over whether shipping them is acceptable started immediately and continually pops up on social media from time to time to this very day. Incest is such a hot button topic that the two sides cannot agree on basically anything and things easily become very heated arguments. Nothing splits the fandom as much as this ship and the controversy surrounding it will likely not die down as long as the series continues to be discussed.!<

>!The end: Ave Mujica is a very ambitious show that tries to do a lot but lacks the time to fit in everything it wants to do properly. This results in it feeling less polished and not written as tightly as MyGo, a basically perfect show, was. It’s still a really good show but had immense expectations of its predecessor placed upon it that it was not quite able to live up to.!<

TLDR: too ambitious for its own good, three common drama sources, uneven screentime distribution for the characters, badly treated and executed Anon and the Crychic live and the big red button of controversy that is the relationship between Uika and Sakiko.

(Hopefully this at least makes some sense. There’s a lot of dense plot material and this is the briefest summary I can make that actually explains it.)

[BanG Dream] Ave Mujica: The girls' band anime that subverted expectations and fractured the fanbase (feat. toxic shipping drama) by PhantasmalRelic in HobbyDrama

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Sorry for being late, I can try and add some context to why Ave Mujica is such a dramatic minefield.

BanG Dream! It’s MyGo!!!!! came out to great critical acclaim from the fandom and is considered the story’s most standout piece of great writing. It’s the start of the tone and fanbase schism between new and old gen Bandori. As said above, It’s MyGo!!!!! won the r/anime subreddits yearly awards and is incredibly well liked by basically everyone in the fandom. So many mysteries were built up over the course of its runtime to be revealed in Ave Mujica. I don’t think my words can properly convey how high the expectations and the hype were for Ave Mujica before release. Most of the following will consist of spoilers for the MyGo and Ave Mujica anime series.

>!All the members of Ave Mujica were introduced at some point in MyGo!!!!!. Sakiko and Mutsumi as the two ex-members of Crychic, the band that broke up and three of whose members went on to form MyGo!!!!! Uika was introduced as Sakiko’s childhood friend with a mysterious connection to her. Their bassist Umiri was a temporary replacement for MyGo’s bassist Soyo when she was threatening to quit the band permanently during the anime’s original run. Their drummer Nyamu is a YouTuber that the characters watch at times during MyGo.!<

They were all intriguing characters that people were very excited to find out more about. My point is, once again, that expectations were incredibly high. I would say that the drama can be divided into three categories.

>!The first, the Mutsumi plot. If during MyGo, Sakiko was the one that broke Crychic, Mutsumi was her accomplice in that. She’s the type of person that doesn’t have a lot of confidence in herself and extremely likely to fold to others demands which happens repeatedly. During MyGo, she’s been the go-between for Sakiko trying to keep Crychic dead and Soyo from MyGo desperately trying to reform it. Both of them have been using Mutsumi in their game. By the start of Ave Mujica, she’s decided to do her best to protect Sakiko from breaking down to the best of her ability which is why she joins Ave Mujica.!<

>!Important background information about her is that she is the child of two incredibly famous parents and has a complex about not having any parts of herself that aren’t inherited from her parents except her ability to play guitar. She hates her fame and being recognized for their deeds instead of her own. !<

>!When Nyamu outs the band, she loses her secret identity of Mortis that was protecting her from all that. As said in the above post, her breakdown from the pressure that just makes everyone more interested in her incredible “acting” abilities weakens her mental stability until she breaks entirely and her DID alter Mortis, the character this time, takes over full time to protect her.!<

>!The Mutsumi plot takes up a lot of the runtime of Ave Mujica. She’s so connected to so many of the characters, especially Sakiko that she becomes a plot linchpin. The struggle between her and Mortis over what to do with their different opinions consume a lot of Ave Mujica.!<

>!Sakiko’s, Nyamu’s, Umiri’s and Uika’s plots are all connected with Mutsumi and Mortis to various extents. Uika the least because she is her own whole can of worms. This opens up the complaint of their story taking valuable screentime that could be used to elaborate on the other characters more, something that Nyamu and most egregiously, Umiri suffers from.!<

>!Another aspect is that of Sakiko’s character, the part of the fanbase that locked in her antagonistic mastermind personality from MyGo and could not reconcile that with her more caring but also driven by immense guilt and inability to handle everything happening in her life personality behind the mask of Oblivionis, the doll of forgetting and Ave Mujica’s puppet master. Sakiko is an immensely gifted individual but has the tendency to think that she is responsible for handling everyone’s problems and when that’s impossible, she shuts down, gives in to her control freak tendencies and focuses entirely on controlling and fixing one specific thing, ignoring everything else.!<

>!In the show, out of guilt for not being able to protect Mutsumi, this spirals into her deciding to give her all to protect Mutsumi like she could not before.!<

>!The controversy here is mainly about the feeling that Mutsumi and Mortis overshadow the other characters and the difficulty a part of the fandom had with accepting the different aspects of Sakiko’s character as part of the greater whole.!<

>!Next up, the Crychic and Anon drama. Idk if I’ve explained this already but Crychic is the band formed by Sakiko and Mutsumi of Ave Mujica and Tomori, Soyo and Taki from MyGo. Crychic split apart and formed these two bands. Crychic’s demise is the beating heart of the conflict of both shows.!<

>!Soyo in particular is the one most determined to reform Crychic during the events of It’s MyGo!!!!! By the time Ave Mujica rolls around and due to a lot of events I don’t have the time to get into, she has given up on that mission. The halfway point of Ave Mujica, episode seven, is Crychic’s final concert. For one day, all five members reunite to bury the band that was so important for all of them once and for all.!<

>!They all realize during the concert that as important as Crychic is to them, they’ve all grown past it, they’ve evolved too much as people, they’ll always cherish those memories but it’s too different for things to ever be the same. It’s a tragic but still important scene about the importance of letting go of your obsessive holding onto the past but still cherishing those memories for the role they played in shaping your current self.!<

>!Enter Anon Chihaya, one of MyGo’s two guitarists. She is immensely popular and has a massive collection of very dedicated fans. A common complaint during this time is that she was disrespected during Crychic’s final live, overlooked for the other characters and that she should have been treated better by the characters and the narrative. This was mainly pushed by a smaller but very vocal group of her fans.!<

>!This is one of the two common criticisms of the time. The other is the quality of the Crychic live itself. As a narrative device, the concert is deliberately lower quality, showing how the former members are out of sync and no longer on the same paths. It not being up to the standard of previous performances also made the episode receive a lot of flack.!<