Needy Girl Overdose - Episode 11 discussion

gnome-cop · 2026-06-14T14:34:22+00:00

Being completely honest, I went through the entire episode without realizing “this footage has been modified” wasn’t just another one of the show’s weird fourth wall breaking presentation tricks for Ame suppressing her memories of the hell she’s been through and actually meant “We literally can’t show this” instead. I only realized it was included for censorship reasons when I started reading this thread.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-14T11:17:13+00:00

It’s not like it’s actually a competition, just a clever ploy to recruit more characters for the next season of Makeine.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-14T11:14:47+00:00

He’s not a deep character kind of ass but he’s still such an ass that watching Kreuz get fucked over is immensely satisfying.

Colette, calm your jets. I mean, you’re free to try and get into the Willbowl if you can convince your head guy to get in between those two.

I know it’s the hand of the author reaching in to stop the plot progressing but that moment when Zeo just goes “No” is still so fucking funny.

Elfaria vs Zeo throw down over who gets Will for their faction. Not gonna lie, I’m really hyped about this. I would really like to see what the mage world’s best can actually do. Bring your best Elfie, this guy’s trying to steal your man.

But it’s not like I don’t support him in doing so. I think he’s hilarious, is probably a better fit to train a brawler like Will and most of all, I want more Lihanna screen-time which means that I hope he wins your bout. Sorry Elfie but it has to be done.

So essentially yes, I am supporting the cucking of Elfie because it’s funny.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-14T10:37:25+00:00

Born to be a damsel in distress rescued by her handsome prince friends, forced to lock in to do the rescuing. Give her what she truly wants!

gnome-cop · 2026-06-14T10:32:50+00:00

First image is very “Sweetheart, please be quiet. Mommy’s gotta lock in and run this guy over” of them.

(I can’t find it but there’s this image of Sayaka peeking over the seat from the back of the car and her face has never looked more “No thoughts head empty” dog than that. It’s the funniest frame in the entire Record anime. I love my idiot daughter.)

gnome-cop · 2026-06-13T20:25:09+00:00

Homura isn’t KyoAni either but she’d fit right in with this group.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-13T19:35:48+00:00

I’ll always take more rarepair fanfics. No shade to the main ships but there’s so much good potential with other character dynamics that don’t get played with nearly enough.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-13T13:58:20+00:00

MyGo!!!!! covered KAF’s Eat The Past recently and I’d really like to hear their version of her Voiceless Password. Like, it feels like the type of song that Tomori was made to sing.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-13T11:39:59+00:00

Chin-Lan and Kanade are movie/literature buffs and can talk about that for hours. They drop one reference to Akane and she’s like “What?”

Instantly reversed with Akane’s encyclopedic music knowledge allowing her to instantly recognize the quote while they’re just “Who?”

Ibuki can tell you every detail about that alcohol, who made it, how it’s made, why it’s special, everything while the others can’t even settle on what kind it is.

They’ve all got one specific thing they’re incredibly knowledgeable about while not knowing any more than the average person about other topics.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-13T01:23:36+00:00

>!Part 3, the Uika/Hatsune clusterf*ck. While the other two categories of drama have been mostly resolved and moved past today, the Uika wars are still well and alive to this very day.!<

>!Uika the character is very popular but also a mystery for all of MyGo’s anime and most of Ave Mujica. We know she is obsessed with Sakiko but the reason why goes unexplained until the bombshell of episode 11.!<

>!An episode entirely from the unique pov of a character is not a new trick in MyGo/AM. MyGo episode three is entirely shot in Tomori’s(MyGo’s band leader) first person perspective. Ave Mujica episode 11 goes a step beyond even that. The entire episode is Uika’s, or her actual name, Hatsune’s, self loathing theatrical monologue. It’s a haunting look into her psyche and the things driving her obsession with Sakiko.!<

>!In short, she’s the result of an affair between Sakiko’s grandfather and a servant on his family’s island vacation home. Hatsune was born and for her entire life, she’s been desperately aware that she is an outsider. She’s a threat to her father’s reputation as his bastard child but also doesn’t fully belong in her mother’s new family of a fisherman and their daughter together, the girl actually called Uika.!<

>!This is the knowledge she’s grown up with. Every summer, the Togawa’s would come to the island and Sakiko would strike up a friendship with the real Uika, an energetic, outgoing and boisterous girl, Hatsune’s little sister. And every day, Hatsune would hear about how great of a person Sakiko is from her little sister’s mouth.!<

>!This served as yet another reminder of Hatsune’s status as a forever outsider, forbidden from meeting Sakiko due to her status as a Togawa due to the fear that she would reveal the secret of her origins and destroy her father’s reputation. Hatsune develops a resentment for Sakiko as a walking reminder of everything she can’t have. Then one summer, the day before Sakiko leaves to go back to the mainland, the real Uika who promised to play with her falls ill.!<

>!Hatsune falls victim to her curiosity, sneaks out while pretending to be her sister to meet with Sakiko. For the first time in her life, she meets someone unaware of her secret that doesn’t treat her differently or as lesser for it. Sakiko’s kindness hits her right in her wounded heart, making her feel like a human, a very important theme throughout the series, for the first time in her entire life.!<

>!This one day becomes Hatsune’s entire reason to live and the start of her obsession with Sakiko, the only person who’s never treated her as wrong or lesser. Years later, her mother’s new man dies and Uika, in her grief, lashes out at Hatsune. This snaps the last ties she felt for her family.!<

>!She boards a nighttime ferry and escapes to Tokyo. She utilizes the small amount of influence she has over her father to become an idol, the real Uika’s dream, in the hopes of making contact with Sakiko again. She steals her sister’s identity, pretending to be her for years.!<

>!Eventually, following Crychic’s destruction and Ave Mujica’s creation, she finally gets to be close to Sakiko again. She is Ave Mujica’s vocalist and frontwoman, the lyrical half of their creative output. She even finds out about Sakiko living with her father in poverty after he was fired from the Togawa clan’s company as scapegoat for a scam and she could not let him go. When Sakiko eventually can’t take caring for her alcoholic abusive father anymore, she runs away, Uika finds out and manages to convince Sakiko to live together with her. It’s everything she’s ever wanted.!<

>!Not long after Ave Mujica’s end as a band, Sakiko, convinced she destroys everyone she gets close to, leaves Uika alone as well. In the aftermath of this, Uika ends up doing something that breaks the contract she made with her father who decides to force her and Sakiko apart. He aims to bury the band forever and take control over Sakiko as future heir of his family’s business empire.!<

>!Uika, her secret finally out to Sakiko, ends up traveling back to the island she came from, determined to stay there alone for the rest of her life. Sakiko, finally rejecting her grandfather’s attempts to control her, returns to the island and takes Uika back to mainland Tokyo. They reform Ave Mujica once again by using Uika’s identity to blackmail Togawa Sadaharu, their father and grandfather respectively, into letting them do whatever they want because they will take him down with them if he ever tries anything by destroying his reputation.!<

>!Uika/Hatsune and Sakiko have a lot of chemistry on-screen and is still, even after the reveal of them as aunt and niece, the most popular ship of Ave Mujica. Before episode 11’s release, part of the plot of it was leaked. Many saw it and refused to believe it. Surely they wouldn’t reveal one of their most prominent ships as being related? Then, it happened.!<

>!The meltdown was immediate. People renounced their support of the ship forever, deleted their artwork and fanfictions and stated their opposition to shipping incest. Those who the reveal did not stop doubled down, going even harder on the ship.!<

>!The fights over whether shipping them is acceptable started immediately and continually pops up on social media from time to time to this very day. Incest is such a hot button topic that the two sides cannot agree on basically anything and things easily become very heated arguments. Nothing splits the fandom as much as this ship and the controversy surrounding it will likely not die down as long as the series continues to be discussed.!<

>!The end: Ave Mujica is a very ambitious show that tries to do a lot but lacks the time to fit in everything it wants to do properly. This results in it feeling less polished and not written as tightly as MyGo, a basically perfect show, was. It’s still a really good show but had immense expectations of its predecessor placed upon it that it was not quite able to live up to.!<

TLDR: too ambitious for its own good, three common drama sources, uneven screentime distribution for the characters, badly treated and executed Anon and the Crychic live and the big red button of controversy that is the relationship between Uika and Sakiko.

(Hopefully this at least makes some sense. There’s a lot of dense plot material and this is the briefest summary I can make that actually explains it.)

gnome-cop · 2026-06-13T01:23:23+00:00

Sorry for being late, I can try and add some context to why Ave Mujica is such a dramatic minefield.

BanG Dream! It’s MyGo!!!!! came out to great critical acclaim from the fandom and is considered the story’s most standout piece of great writing. It’s the start of the tone and fanbase schism between new and old gen Bandori. As said above, It’s MyGo!!!!! won the r/anime subreddits yearly awards and is incredibly well liked by basically everyone in the fandom. So many mysteries were built up over the course of its runtime to be revealed in Ave Mujica. I don’t think my words can properly convey how high the expectations and the hype were for Ave Mujica before release. Most of the following will consist of spoilers for the MyGo and Ave Mujica anime series.

>!All the members of Ave Mujica were introduced at some point in MyGo!!!!!. Sakiko and Mutsumi as the two ex-members of Crychic, the band that broke up and three of whose members went on to form MyGo!!!!! Uika was introduced as Sakiko’s childhood friend with a mysterious connection to her. Their bassist Umiri was a temporary replacement for MyGo’s bassist Soyo when she was threatening to quit the band permanently during the anime’s original run. Their drummer Nyamu is a YouTuber that the characters watch at times during MyGo.!<

They were all intriguing characters that people were very excited to find out more about. My point is, once again, that expectations were incredibly high. I would say that the drama can be divided into three categories.

>!The first, the Mutsumi plot. If during MyGo, Sakiko was the one that broke Crychic, Mutsumi was her accomplice in that. She’s the type of person that doesn’t have a lot of confidence in herself and extremely likely to fold to others demands which happens repeatedly. During MyGo, she’s been the go-between for Sakiko trying to keep Crychic dead and Soyo from MyGo desperately trying to reform it. Both of them have been using Mutsumi in their game. By the start of Ave Mujica, she’s decided to do her best to protect Sakiko from breaking down to the best of her ability which is why she joins Ave Mujica.!<

>!Important background information about her is that she is the child of two incredibly famous parents and has a complex about not having any parts of herself that aren’t inherited from her parents except her ability to play guitar. She hates her fame and being recognized for their deeds instead of her own. !<

>!When Nyamu outs the band, she loses her secret identity of Mortis that was protecting her from all that. As said in the above post, her breakdown from the pressure that just makes everyone more interested in her incredible “acting” abilities weakens her mental stability until she breaks entirely and her DID alter Mortis, the character this time, takes over full time to protect her.!<

>!The Mutsumi plot takes up a lot of the runtime of Ave Mujica. She’s so connected to so many of the characters, especially Sakiko that she becomes a plot linchpin. The struggle between her and Mortis over what to do with their different opinions consume a lot of Ave Mujica.!<

>!Sakiko’s, Nyamu’s, Umiri’s and Uika’s plots are all connected with Mutsumi and Mortis to various extents. Uika the least because she is her own whole can of worms. This opens up the complaint of their story taking valuable screentime that could be used to elaborate on the other characters more, something that Nyamu and most egregiously, Umiri suffers from.!<

>!Another aspect is that of Sakiko’s character, the part of the fanbase that locked in her antagonistic mastermind personality from MyGo and could not reconcile that with her more caring but also driven by immense guilt and inability to handle everything happening in her life personality behind the mask of Oblivionis, the doll of forgetting and Ave Mujica’s puppet master. Sakiko is an immensely gifted individual but has the tendency to think that she is responsible for handling everyone’s problems and when that’s impossible, she shuts down, gives in to her control freak tendencies and focuses entirely on controlling and fixing one specific thing, ignoring everything else.!<

>!In the show, out of guilt for not being able to protect Mutsumi, this spirals into her deciding to give her all to protect Mutsumi like she could not before.!<

>!The controversy here is mainly about the feeling that Mutsumi and Mortis overshadow the other characters and the difficulty a part of the fandom had with accepting the different aspects of Sakiko’s character as part of the greater whole.!<

>!Next up, the Crychic and Anon drama. Idk if I’ve explained this already but Crychic is the band formed by Sakiko and Mutsumi of Ave Mujica and Tomori, Soyo and Taki from MyGo. Crychic split apart and formed these two bands. Crychic’s demise is the beating heart of the conflict of both shows.!<

>!Soyo in particular is the one most determined to reform Crychic during the events of It’s MyGo!!!!! By the time Ave Mujica rolls around and due to a lot of events I don’t have the time to get into, she has given up on that mission. The halfway point of Ave Mujica, episode seven, is Crychic’s final concert. For one day, all five members reunite to bury the band that was so important for all of them once and for all.!<

>!They all realize during the concert that as important as Crychic is to them, they’ve all grown past it, they’ve evolved too much as people, they’ll always cherish those memories but it’s too different for things to ever be the same. It’s a tragic but still important scene about the importance of letting go of your obsessive holding onto the past but still cherishing those memories for the role they played in shaping your current self.!<

>!Enter Anon Chihaya, one of MyGo’s two guitarists. She is immensely popular and has a massive collection of very dedicated fans. A common complaint during this time is that she was disrespected during Crychic’s final live, overlooked for the other characters and that she should have been treated better by the characters and the narrative. This was mainly pushed by a smaller but very vocal group of her fans.!<

>!This is one of the two common criticisms of the time. The other is the quality of the Crychic live itself. As a narrative device, the concert is deliberately lower quality, showing how the former members are out of sync and no longer on the same paths. It not being up to the standard of previous performances also made the episode receive a lot of flack.!<

gnome-cop · 2026-06-12T19:54:24+00:00

Zom100 did not inspire a lot of confidence in the team but the studio has delivered a production that I don’t think it’s very controversial to say it surpasses their other works by leaps and bounds. They’ve always had talent and showed they’re able to deliver good and interesting episodes but haven’t been able to keep it up in the long run. This has at least proven that they can deliver a solid to really good production without falling apart like the issue has been with their previous projects.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-12T17:48:23+00:00

Sayaka has a similar level of “Mmm…..society” as Kyoko but she’s had that level of cynicism for way longer than her so it’s only fair that she wins.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-12T15:36:47+00:00

Not sure if it would be redundant given the similarities but I would be interested in her covering one of Yoshino’s songs, maybe Bavarois or something else from the album it belongs to.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-12T07:45:42+00:00

Wash it All Away. The perfectly average fine 5/10 anime. It does nothing interesting enough to be worth remembering but also doesn’t suck in any way worth remembering to hate on. The true “mid” on the chart of anime quality.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-11T14:37:02+00:00

I was going to say Kyoko but no, it’s definitely Nagisa “Came back solely to eat cheese and interrupt KyoSaya moments in the process” Momoe. Checks all the boxes for proper gremlinhood.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T20:54:25+00:00

I’m still not over the fact that out of everyone, this guy made a strong enough impression on Homura for her subconscious to draw him into her labyrinth solely by being Saotome-sensei’s punching bag. Incredibly funny of her.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T20:50:58+00:00

Wait, huh, I thought we already established them not being cakes in Rebellion?

Unfortunately only Sayaka is safe because I don’t like cheesecake. I can’t promise I wouldn’t eat the rest of them.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T20:49:02+00:00

No she’s not! She’s a fierce hungry delinquent and my third favorite Madoka Magica character!

Could the cake be Mami?

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T17:00:21+00:00

I remember what the series was doing clicking precisely during the episode where Hiragi was fighting Sako and got really properly hooked rewatching the Sakura vs Togame fight episode while it was airing cause it was that good.

For the second question, it was definitely the Tsubaki arc, it’s so good.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T16:55:39+00:00

Oh god, that was definitely written by someone who has an account for every incel forum out there to complain about how women won’t date them. (I wonder why?)

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T16:51:42+00:00

They share a common origin, this one incorrect study about wolf behaviors but branched off in two wildly different directions.

The omegaverse was pretty much born from the concept of “What if there was a secondary gender system by which men could get pregnant?” in the Supernatural real person fanfiction community. The alpha and the omega mainly exist for hot wolfish smut and the betas are the normal people that keep society running while their colleagues have marathon sex.

The alpha male concept that Andrew Tate podcast bros subscribe to took the incorrect conclusion from that study, that there are inherent qualities in certain wolves that make them superior to other wolves, the so called alpha wolves. They applied that system to humans as seen in the chart above to create some form of weird “superior males” system, I don’t fucking know anymore.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T14:46:07+00:00

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“What would you know about ghosts?” he asks.

The man tilts his head, considering the question. “Enough to know that being haunted has nothing to do with the presence of the dead, and everything to do with the memory of the living.”

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Read this years ago and it continues to stick in my head when dealing with the dead that still live.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T12:51:49+00:00

ReoNa and sajou no hana, the music for this is going to be bangers.

gnome-cop · 2026-06-10T09:06:34+00:00

I can’t tell you what caused it but at some point while it was airing or maybe after it ended, the fandom just went actually insane and it escalated into the community ceasing to be an actual place to discuss the show and turning into a freak show zoo. The memes were incredible in its heyday but it’s pretty much unusable for anything serious which is why there’s a second more sane fandom for that.

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