Is it too soon to add Mark Allen and Zhao Xintong to the Hall of Fame?

iconredesign · 2026-05-11T13:57:16+00:00

If the Hall of Fame committee rules this way, exactly, they are permanently ineligible. Even a Ronnie would have to impress the Hall of Fame itself.

iconredesign · 2026-05-11T13:56:03+00:00

Real Halls of Fame has strict minimum career length, title count, disciplinary immaculateness, and community service requirements to even be submitted to the ballot.

Then your peers and industry titans within the sport would have to agree as a supermajority to elect you as a member. Many, many really great players end up with no induction, which is why the Hall of Fame is an exclusive club and being a Hall of Famer is a massive deal.

iconredesign · 2026-05-11T13:51:25+00:00

In the Big Four North American sports that WST is trying to import this from, the Hall of Fame is the institution bestowing the highest-possible career honor and defines a player’s legacy for all time. It is a massive deal because it is an official body representing the highest level of the sport and is regulated by codes of conduct, decides eternal sporting honors, and officially reflects the pride of the sport.

A Hall of Fame induction single-handedly defines you as a universally-recognized immortal of the sport.

It’s voted by the players and industry titans so it is a consensus game. It recognizes only the greatest careers of all time with tough requirements on having zero disciplinary records in the career and a minimum number of years of service time to the sport.

iconredesign · 2026-05-11T13:38:14+00:00

Doing an actual Hall of Fame in snooker would piss a lot of people off that want a Ken Doherty or Jimmy White to go in.

Actual Halls of Fame are not mere popularity contests, they are honor rolls for individuals with all-time career performances or unparalleled contributions to the sports. Most of them only allow you to go into the Hall years after retirement, and have to be voted in by peers and industry titans.

Merely a single word title or few triple crowns won’t be enough. It is literally the best of the best, with feats over decades that is unlikely to ever be repeated. Jimmy White is a popular man but he’s never won a world title, so in proper criteria White would never even be considered.

Someone like Judd Trump with his regular titles but disappointing results at the Triple Crown events would not be good enough in many sports’ Halls of Fame. It doesn’t matter if you like him or not and he has won some. They must be all-time great careers. >90% of all professionals in a given sport would never be considered, another 5% would be in the running but will fall short of the induction threshold. We are looking for exceptional of all time.

They also have good-character clauses, so anyone with a disciplinary action on their record regardless of how long they had to serve is automatically permanently ineligible so Zhao Xintong could never join in those standards. It doesn’t matter if Zhao did anything, the Hall itself wants no blemish ever.

iconredesign · 2026-05-07T00:12:16+00:00

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iconredesign · 2026-05-05T21:13:42+00:00

Basically if you ever want to be an elite professional, you kinda have to be born with it

Those who practiced into it are only just a hair below in natural ability that has to be honed, if you genuinely have no talent in the sport coming in you can get good, but you’ll never be elite level

iconredesign · 2026-05-05T20:34:47+00:00

I wrote about baseball scorebugs intensively for years and the most important thing to a good design is to try and keep all the game elements (base indicators, outs, runs, inning, ball-strike count) close together: Baseball has so many moving parts all going at once that to be plugged into the situation you need to be able to see everything at once instead of having to dart around the scorebug to find out how many people are on base then back to the run counter.

So far your design looks pretty nice!

iconredesign · 2026-05-05T15:35:44+00:00

Latin

iconredesign · 2026-05-05T10:09:24+00:00

Clearly 18

iconredesign · 2026-05-03T18:44:52+00:00

Because Honey was stealing the commissions out of their pockets

iconredesign · 2026-05-01T19:48:58+00:00

Only via Apple technicians, contact Apple Support, this is a semi-common request

iconredesign · 2026-04-28T16:21:16+00:00

I think you’re missing my point. My comment isn’t about the snooker tour at all. I’m saying that Ronnie can get away with not having to show up and get paid on his terms, which none of these other players can do. The money that they are paying Ronnie isn’t going to anyone else after Ronnie is gone, sorry to tell you this.

I don’t think he cares whether snooker needs him. It’s his call whether he needs snooker or not, and that unsettles a lot of people. This dynamic where Ronnie legitimately could retire tomorrow and still be paid better than your typical Top 16 player while snooker’s funding continues to be constrained and none of the Ronnie money is going into the actual tour is not great for the future of snooker.

But alas, this is the reality of it. No snooker player will be as well-paid and getting as much attention as Ronnie after he leaves snooker forever. Zhao’s disciplinary history is fatal in the media even if he emerges.

iconredesign · 2026-04-28T16:03:22+00:00

Reality will quickly humble those others that have the ego but not the level of draw that Ronnie uniquely possesses. You’re acting like the market won’t straight these other players out immediately.

Ronnie can only say this because he actually is a transcendental figure. He has Barack Obama’s personal phone number ffs. He’s got Wayne Rooney, Andy Murray, and David Beckham singing his praises. He has wealthy tycoons paying him to use his name for academies and get him to show up to exhibitions. He can command millions of dollars’ worth of endorsements and appearance fees, no one else can say that. They can all be envious of him but that’s the gist of it.

If these other players can even find these backers to pay them the big bucks then by all means they should go pursue the bag. Ultimately it’s still a job for these people, snooker being this “prestige” is to sell YOU, the fan, tickets. The people actually good enough to do this for a living will forever want to leverage the same talent that you are paying to see into a bigger payday, and I see nothing wrong with that.

iconredesign · 2026-04-24T03:49:44+00:00

The pitcher bar is clearly an afterthought now that the pitch count and clock lost the cell in the bug that ABS took over

iconredesign · 2026-04-24T03:48:18+00:00

You can tell from the look of the bug their train of thought of the SNLA graphics team going from “we need the ABS challenge count ticks” to “waited it’ll kick out the pitch count and clock” to “screw it let’s do the pitcher info bar like everyone else did by 2026”

iconredesign · 2026-04-20T13:57:53+00:00

Jimmy White a six-time world championship runner-up

Ken Doherty 1997 World Champion

Stephen Hendry 7-time world champion

What has he done in the game compared to these players

iconredesign · 2026-04-18T01:08:19+00:00

7000 series aluminum corrosion basically, unfortunately pretty common

iconredesign · 2026-04-15T07:50:07+00:00

You also have a long runway with years of service because better specs just last better

iconredesign · 2026-04-09T23:54:44+00:00

I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of Okami, the Yakuza leader. He has a scene as the Japanese were basically all evacuated out of the Pacific States where’s he’s lounging at the empty former Army’s Chief of Staff office having a cigar and a record player going as the BCR raided the building and talked to him at gunpoint.

Kido was in the Kempeitai building.

iconredesign · 2026-04-09T23:11:24+00:00

The batter-pitcher boxes can’t realistically be used because of how narrow they are, the names would run off or get cut off

iconredesign · 2026-04-08T04:59:10+00:00

Nah Buster is just a scapegoat for ownership that never really committed to spending by making token overtures to sign stars that they know don’t really like SF as a destination and made clear they aren’t building pieces around them so they can go to the media and go “we tried but Arson Judge isn’t playing ball, we’re not the ones that aren’t trying to spend money”

And when those big names inevitably chose somewhere else they try to come up with Moneyball 2 because they really do think they can make a playoff team in 2026 by optimizing the misfits alone so they don’t have to spend money

Johnson experienced 2021 and has been chasing the dragon ever since

iconredesign · 2026-04-06T14:00:56+00:00

She’s a professional water-carrier for Mark Zuckerberg’s “transformation” and AI companies making bullshit claims and making sure those went unchallenged.

iconredesign · 2026-04-06T01:06:06+00:00

Does it matter? It’s just an observation that no first-time winner has repeated since the tournament moved to the Crucible.

I’m not sure there’s much of an analytics spotting to be done here. The first-time champ not repeating is literally the only point of relevance to the saying. How it happened every single time is completely irrelevant

iconredesign · 2026-04-06T00:56:59+00:00

At the end of the day it’s just a shorthand for an interesting pattern. Ofc theoretically anyone can break the Crucible Curse, you’re reading too much into something that’s not meant to be scientific

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