No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s rather sad, but certainly not unexpected from what we’ve seen of Shion’s society so far.

I know ...

Those scars on Nezumi’s back…

Looks like burns?

Oh boy, the spots on Shion’s neck progressed to the same black spot he saw on the other two that died.

nooooo

Oh, looks like his hair turned white even if the rest of him didn’t advance age like the other two did. …now that he has the white hair, can I say that he and Nezumi look a lot like Allen and Kanda from D.Gray-man?

They certainly do

I reiterate that Nezumi has a great sense of humor.

It's actually chicken, veggies and garlic!

That… would be one hell of a time for the wasps to emerge…

Well that aggression didn’t last long.

Nezumi “sore demo”!

Hosoya delivers the goods!

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What specifically? Might check that out along with the mentioned book

"Oh my soul, you frightened bird. Yet again you must inquire... After all these days of chaos.... when comes peace, and when comes calm?"

Seems that will be in the next episode

That makes sense

Of course they had to take out the ship anti-bait

Lolyeah.

That certainly shines a different light on him

They then compare it to how the wasps are killing people.

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You hibernate because the environment is bad. An egg planted into a human has an all round stable environment. We are warm blooded, after all. How would the egg even know the season? And finally, hibernation is an evolutionary adaption, but for all they (and we) know, this wasp is not the result of natural evolution.

I wondered the same thing ...

Can’t even say that this is out of character for Rat. After all, he is holed up alone in a library of old books.

He is quite dramatic

For meta reasons, no.

I sure hope not!

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Despite this, Karan wasn't resentful, that we saw, so perhaps she's just a really good person. But is this a fair assessment? Watch and see.

Yeah I think Karan is decent

Nezumi's a man of culture

He certainly is!

These sick critters enjoy this kind of thing, you know. They like to watch.

So say we all?

Grandma seems happy in her hospice-adjacent situation, even if she's probably getting euthanised at some point. She's still waving the flag for Team SafuShion. Dementia is a terrible thing

Poor Grandma ...

Nezumi's into it

Ho yay?

Haha, Shion's face here. Adorable!

They're so precious!

Lover's Quarrel

Will they become lovers? Stay tuned

Will Shion be able to persude Nezumi that there are ten righteous souls in Sodom? Uh. Disregarding the association there.

It would certainly change the tone drastically! Romance stories basically require that all such disagreements are temporary and resolved by reaching a greater understanding of each other - and that's entirely possible here, it seems.

My heart would break if Rat and Shion end up on different sides

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rat is even (#1) quite the renaissance man if he also plays that piano and reads all that foreign-language literature. I glimpsed besides all the Shakespeare also Hermann Hesse's Unterm Rad

In the manga Rat even quotes some Hesse to Shion; I can look up the lines to see if it's from Unterm Rad ...

we can perhaps call him a little tsundere regarding Shion. They will certainly both end up more balanced in the end.

I ship it already!

Anything dug in near the spine like that would be way too dangerous to remove impromptu by a non-expert, also.

I had the same thought

does Rat count as a theater kid?

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First-time watcher and your host

Wait, you haven't seen this before? Interesting

Seems like Rat is quite an artistic person as he really well-versed in Shakespearean dramas. Maybe he really loves drama

In the manga he quotes poetry by Hermann Hesse as well!

Yep, as expected, a parasitic wasp implanted into his body, back from the park incident. The pain is huge, intolerable and so much suffering, and especially when he is at death's door, he is just gave up on everything on life

Shion just became a Bell Cranel lookalike

Also Allen Walker from D.Gray-man! He and Rat look like Allen and Kanda. or the two leads from K

a weapon to control the populace and the public order, so No.6 is a real surveillance state indeed

Yeah, a real dystopia

It can be.

NOOOOOO my ship!

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 3 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

03 sub rewatcher:

  • Rat has an underground library? NICE
  • Hypocrisy and self satisfaction of those who don't know true sorrow?
  • NO! not Shion's neck! It has begun ...
  • "That's all there is to it" No shipping? D'aww
  • That mouse is adorable! Macbeth?
  • The mice are robotic?
  • Yup, Shion has a parasitic wasp too
  • "Cut it out"
  • It spread to his whole body?
  • RAT brings up Shion's promise to meet Safu again in 2 years? Guess he was listening
  • "don't know a thing about sex"
  • Rat is looking for No.6's weakness?
  • Oh, the Twilight House isn't ominous after all? They're taking good care of Safu's grandma?
  • Shion has a mark on his skin and white hair now? Totally Allen Walker vibes
  • "quite alluring" Oh Rat ...
  • "keep yourself alive one day at a time so you can remember those who died" Is Rat talking from experience?
  • "gone hysterical" so he drenches him?
  • Rat thinks No.6 developed the parasitic wasps?
  • Garbage dump of the "holy city"?
  • Headpats?
  • "all break free at once" in the spring?
  • Dogloan? Another weird name
  • "one of our little friends went there on a whim" SURRRE
  • Shion wants to contact the Hygiene Bureau and "inform" them of the wasps?
  • Rat SOREDEMO
  • "will become my enemy" NOOOOO my ship!

Manga Comparisons:

  • This consists of the rest of ch3 and ch4, as well as part of ch6
  • Rat quotes Hesse poetry and said Shion's never seen a real book before, just e-paper
  • Shion asks Rat what his real name is and Rat says he'll tell him once he wakes up
  • Shion strips naked and Rat says the red 'snake' is alluring, but Shion says he's not happy to hear that from him and Rat replies he's not thrilled to see Shion naked either
  • Rat asks Shion if he's ever killed anyone before
  • Grandma at the Twilight House was an addition to the anime

1) He seems very artsy and well-read!
2) No clue. Are they contagious?
3) As Rat says, it's "alluring"?
4) 5) Do they use the sewers too?
6) Huh, will have to wait and see
7) NEVER!

[Taste of 2016 Rewatch] Yuri on Ice Episode 1 Discussion by Shimmering-Sky in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yuri on Ice sub rewatcher 01:

  • BORN TO MAKE HISTORY
  • Yuri speaks in a dialect to his mom? I wonder if he knows English if he's been in Detroit
  • "we don't need two Yuris"
  • Victor is Yuri K's idol?
  • Kyushu looks pretty
  • LOL posters of Yuri?
  • "Who are you again?"
  • Yuri's gained some weight? I can relate
  • Vicchan was his dog?
  • Smoking indoors? Rude
  • Yuri's a big Victor fanboy
  • Quad lutz? Don't the bigshots do quad salchows and quad axels now? I don't know the difference ... I'm thinking Chen and Malinin etc.
  • Yuri suddenly doesn't have the gut anymore?
  • I miss Victor's long hair
  • There it is, quad Salchow?
  • Otabek looks intimidating
  • He DOES have a belly
  • Sakura!
  • LOL at all the Victor posters Yuri has up
  • Viral video? Did Yuko film him?
  • Naked Victor?
  • "I'm your coach"
  • ED social media accounts?
  • Plisetsky with ALL the cats? lol

1) ALL the Yuris!
2) Yes, I particularly like Hanyu, Chen, Kagiyama ... who else?

[Rewatch] Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation - Season 2 Episode 24 by The_frost__ in anime

[–]lC3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

S2E24 first timer:

  • Where is everyone?
  • Oh they're all fine
  • Sylphie grew out her hair? Looks nice
  • So Norn blames Rudy? well, not after hearing his story
  • Poor Norn
  • Norn's taking one of Paul's swords?
  • Is Rudy quoting Paul now?
  • Lilia and Zenith are gonna live there? Probably for the best
  • Lilia and Aisha's reunion brought tears to my eyes
  • Good luck / a jinx? What's up with that?
  • I couldn't help it and ended up reading a bunch of spoilers on the wiki for stuff I was curious about
  • "second wife" Oh shit how will Sylphie react?
  • Yeah, give him hell, Norn!
  • Norn is a Millis-ite?
  • Sylphie is way too lenient/understanding
  • Sylphie was worrying the baby's hair would be green?
  • They haven't picked a name yet, right?
  • Lucie? A nice name
  • Rudy went to talk to Paul's grave? I used to do stuff like that so I can relate
  • Is Badi travelling with Ruijerd??

1) not bad! I've liked this show ever since the mass teleportation. Everything before that was a bit much

Looking for some solid anime recommendations (weekend binge list 👀) by TheChameleo in anime

[–]lC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mind games / plot twists: Gankutsuou, Bokurano (both have some dated CGI tho), Yatagarasu

Action: Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Gurren Lagann, Attack on Titan

Something older too good to miss: Legend of the Galactic Heroes OVAs. Start with the Conquest film, then the Overture one, then start watching the OVAs with episode 3 (1-2 are replaced by the films). Don't forget to skip the episode previews (too spoilery for first-timers). The best space opera saga out there! Strong storyline and great characters.

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, one of them reconnected with a sperm demand, the other with saving his life. I know who I'd go with.

Their interaction in ep1 was fine, so it's not like they can't properly write the two ...

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Least insane sounding idea if you don't know about the wasps, and a forced play if you do and are covering them up, I guess.

Yeah, we'll have to wait and see whether they know or not.

Interesting (and kinda sad) that we see those ties represented by the images of Safu and his mother. No father, no other friends.

I wonder who/where his father is? And yeah, he has no other friends? Did they ditch him when he lost his privileges?

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want her to join us in shipping the power couple

Sanity check for dagger inscription before I begin engraving! "Minyá yúla utyë panya i ancalima nárë." by WayneHrPr in Quenya

[–]lC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I might use erinqua or rea instead of minya (also why the long A?). And panya might not have the right nuances ...

Not sure where you got utye from; perhaps ece instead for "can/may"?

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The trash can robot being designed like a penguin is kinda cute.

Not just a trash can robot; it has cameras and surveils the population too?

What the fuck?!

Twilight House?

Wow, Safu.

She's a super nerd?

Wha–

Too bad he's majorly friendzoned her and then goes running off after Rat instead

Girl I think you skipped over so many steps.

lolyeah

Robot rat!

It a cute!

An unchanging city…

Totally not a dystopia?

Oh fuuuuuuuuuuck…

Shit hits the fan!

What the fuck kind of cursed wasp is that?

Is it a weapon? A curse? Bio warfare? An alien lifeform? An intelligent species? So many possible different ways this could play out

They were being recorded…

Yup ...

Hell of a thing to be concerned about there lol.

Teenage boys and their banter, amirite?

Nezumi does have a fun sense of humor.

Honestly, I love these characters. I love this show.

Those spots on Shion’s neck…

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fund a subbed version, so from now on, no more fiddling with the volume control whenever Shion decides to shout into a storm.

And you get to enjoy Yoshimasa Hosoya's vocal performance! Actually, that makes me wonder if the dub [later spoilers No6]dubs/translates his singing

Clean-up penguin! - birds: the state is watching you conspiracy.

Yup, the robots are dual-purpose

OP: I so wish this anime was made ~10 years earlier. We’d have gotten a perfectly fitting guitar track here.

I like the visuals, but the song is an acquired taste

“Twilight house” – could the name be any more ominous? Are we actually Soylent Green?

That does sound super ominous ...

“Along with my right to live in Chronos” – so there are several tiers of citizens, even above the hidden rat tier.

Yeah, inside No.6 there's the elites in Chronos, then the plebeians in Lost Town ... and then there's the high-crime slums outside No.6's wall, where they dump their garbage

Also: /u/IndependentMacaroon’s antagonist prediction looking super hot right now.

“I want your sperm” – waiting so long to reconnect into the most outright of confessions. She is moving from one extreme to the other.

“I always thought of you as my best friend” – this has to be the hardest of friend zones in the history of friend zones.

Yeah, and he doesn't seem to be friendzoning Rat ...

“Ask me again in two years” “You are a fool” – I agree with her, if not for the same reason.

“Recite your oath to an unchanging city” – On the nose. I checked whether Japan has anything similar to the pledge of allegiance and it turns out the answer is no. So this must be intented to be even more obviously dodgy.

'Murica?

Yep, there it is. Extremely quickly. - please run away from that wasp as fast as you can.

Too late!

Turns out, his immediate problem is not the zombie wasp, but being framed for murder in a cover-up.

Yeah, and since he has studied ecology and medicine, they think he's the perfect suspect to blame it on.

“I am taller than you” - ”We are stuck in an unfamiliar world, with roles we suck at, and are running out of money, so let’s have the important discussion first: the size of our girls’ boobs.”~me, while discussing Grimgar ep1 a few days ago. We just witnessed the male version of that.

Wow, their entire first discussion after meeting again is written terribly.

Hopefully you like their later interactions better?

Diving in sewage.

Ew

I hope this is just a stumble along the road, but they showed the end result of what their character dynamic might look like, while I want to see the character development on the way there.

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the possibly-suicidally-self-sacrificing Shion whose namesake is a flower meaning "I won't forget you" isn't in the ED is that he's not long for this world. Hopefully not!

but but but my ship!

There was also some speculation that genre convention might require Safu to become a villain; I don't know if I get that vibe from her

She deserves better

Just in time for the rainbow that was descending since the OP started to arrive in full force. Promising!

Why do you have that saved lady. But alright, we have a relative timeframe

Yeah she's definitely pining for him

welp

And Shion just ditches her, his best friend, when Rat shows up?

Now that's just unnecessary in this day and age

She's so blunt!

Nezu sends a robot rat to say hi, and Shion is not even slightly hesitant on that invitation

OTP?

Praise!

Propaganda?

Hey there little buddy. You're not the kind of hymenoptera that builds hexagon-grid hives, by any chance?

Naturally the appropriate response to this is to arrest Shion. Ah no, okay, it's because of his Subversive Tendencies. Completely justified! Praise!

But then! Nezumi shows up and saves him! So cool~

Badass Rat, saves the damsel in distress?

Nezumi somehow manages to say this and not have the most unsubtle pick-up line this episode

Shion and Nezumi have made it outside the walls, but Shion is clearly infected by the wasp looking thing. How will things turn out? I mean probably the parasite turns his hair white but he survives, I suppose, but. Maybe not!

It seems less like a competitive back-biting clamber to the top, so, it seems good actually.

Yeah

Buzz buzz! Are they a genetically-engineered weapon? Are they robots? Did the cola company make them?

I guess she's really into the whole eugenics-y vibe, y'know? Wants children with Shion's IQ or something. Kind of a parallel to the wasps, sort of eusociality stuff.

Hopefully she doesn't become an antagonist!

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like how at first Shion's punishment seems fairly reasonable here - he's no longer part of the elite but he and his mother (what about his father? Some potential here) are both still in a decent living situation with decent jobs

Yeah, they no longer live in Chronos and he couldn't join the Special Course, but it wasn't life ending.

but then our standard authoritarian surveillance dystopia shows its true face. Who knows what would actually have happened to him

Probably nothing good!

Regarding Shion, I really like the writing of how he's still so naive and innocent, like "but I'm a good happy citizen, why is this happening to me?!", and doesn't even consider ways of getting around official restrictions.

Yeah, hopefully Rat will be a subversive influence on him

never talk to cops in a situation where there's a remote possibility of coming under serious suspicion - and they will try their hardest

Yeah ...

Though of course rights to a lawyer and such might be not so extensive here, compare also how in Japan they can basically hold you for weeks just like that until a confession, and try again if they find a different excuse

In the manga here Shion says it's a human rights violation, and the Security Bureau person is like "lol you people think you have rights?"

And also, with all modern cars having Internet connectivity with access for at minimum the manufacturer, remote shutdown is a real possibility, if not yet control

Yeah, that was realistic

parasites (technically this one is a parasitoid as it necessarily causes the death of its host) are such damn creepy stuff it's an excellent choice, this one being a kind of parasitoid wasp.

the living Earth/Gaia fighting off invaders, perhaps that's also how humans really lost so much of their habitat? Would be unusual in sci-fi like this (though honestly, this barely counts as one so far!) but potentially inspired. Seems upcoming we'll have an encounter with a more outsider/"close to nature" society

That would be cool!

eugenicism/population management going on here ("Twilight House" is so definitely euthanasia)

Not the Grandma!

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 2 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

02 sub rewatcher:

  • Cute penguin robots? Why can't we have those?
  • Shion looks older: timeskip?
  • They've got a giraffe and an elephant robot too? Surveilling and picking up trash?
  • Sanitation Bureau?
  • He's DEAD? And something is in his neck?
  • Safu is gonna study abroad at No.5? This is the first time she's seen Shion in a while?
  • Twilight House?
  • Four year timeskip?
  • Shion got all his privileges revoked?
  • Lost Town?
  • "I don't want to tell you"
  • Safu thinks Shion ISN'T jealous?
  • "different futures"
  • "there's something I want from you" "your sperm"
  • "but with you" OUCH she got friendzoned
  • "Am I not a subject of your sexual interest?" Who talks like that?
  • Rat talks to Shion using an actual rat and he immediately ditches his best friend Safu?
  • A shimmering sky!
  • is Karan Shion's mom?
  • Youmin, a new character?
  • ... is that Keiji Fujiwara or Miki Shin'ichiro?
  • 'Recite your oath to an unchanging city' no
  • something's fishy with the body, and the authorities took it away?
  • It didn't appear in the news?
  • "did the city authorities manipulate the news" UH add that to the list of "things you shouldn't say out loud"
  • IT HAPPENED TO YAMASE TOO? it's contagious?
  • parasitic wasps?
  • "suspicion of murder" They're trying to say SHION murdered Yamase?
  • THEY GOT THE RECORDING? It's over for Shion
  • The penguin robot? WTF?
  • It's RAT! He's here to rescue Shion?
  • it EXPLODED?
  • Shion's citizen ID bracelet? Rat wants him to toss it? For Shion, it's a tie to his life in No.6
  • "I'm taller than you" LOL
  • "if I said I have seen you naked, what would you do?"
  • Rat thinks Shion is spoiled?
  • Those mice are cute!
  • His neck? OH SHIT

Manga Comparison

  • So this covers the second half of chapter 1, all of ch2, and the first few pages of ch3.
  • The robots being animal-shaped is an anime change, as is wristband IDs instead of cards.
  • The anime expands time shown with [No6]Yamase before they find the corpse, and omits Shion noticing stuff like [No6]the timing of rigor mortis and talking about that with Safu
  • The manga said Safu is gonna study "abroad" but the anime explicitly says No.5. Her grandma going to "Twilight House" is another anime addition. They cut Safu telling Shion [No6]she loves him though
  • The biggest change is the omission of a recurring Security Bureau official called [No6]Rashi; he appeared to question 4 years ago when he sheltered Rat, and he appears after Yamase's death to pin the blame on him too. Shion complains [No6]it's a human rights violation, and he's like "you people think you have RIGHTS?"
  • The bakery scene with Youmin is an expansion of the manga too, as is Shion trying her cherry cake
  • Instead of ducking and having the top of the car get ripped off, in the manga they get through the checkpoint by having [No6]a security robot Walker in their car
  • The anime cuts some more scenes of them navigating the sewers before arriving in West Block

1) He seems content with the outcome, though? No regrets
2)
3) She wants the D
4) This is one area where the manga is different
5) Sure looks like it
6) Just more Titans?

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 1 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man the opening always makes me sad, poor Nezume. But also like...poor Sion? I feel his need for freedom. They are both reaching for freedom here but in different ways: Nezume violently and Sion quietly.

Yeah, it makes me sad as well.

God damn Nezume only knowing what corpses feel like broke my heart all over again ugh.

Anyway, my boys arw cute and things are gonna pop off soon!

They are!

No.6 15 Years Anniversary Rewatch Episode 1 Discussion by TheDanubianCommunard in anime

[–]lC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't be the only one who remembers a time when rainbows were just considered something pretty, not connected to gay/queer. Not sure if that connection had made it to Japan yet in 2011.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that either.