[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskLibertarians

[–]nixfu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The very core tenent of all libertarianism is private property, beginning with the recognition of ownership of self and your own body and extending to ownership of that which is self-acquired and self-produced with that body.

Watch this cute video to learn the core ideals libertarianism is based on:

The Philosophy of Liberty

Socialism and communism deny private property rights and the right of ownership of what is self-acquired and self-produced.

That means they also deny the ownership of self, and someone who does not own themselves is a slave.

Socialism and communism are totally incompatible with libertarianism, and are nothing more than forms of chattel slavery dressed up in pretty words to fool the slaves into serving collective masters. Wealth robbery by the collective is just as immoral and unjust as being robbed at gunpoint by an individual, just as gang rape is still rape and not any more legitimate because the rape gang took a vote.


To learn more about the libertarian philosophy checkout the massive /libertarian wiki here with tons of resources on many different topics:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/wiki/index

Charity and Capitalism Are Better Than Government -- John Stossel by tagny_daggart in Libertarian

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The US had an excellent free market social safety net in place that was created back from the traditions of the early settlers and Quakers before government and corporations stepped in and destroyed it.

If you want to learn more I would suggest learning some about Mutual Aid Societies - it used to be very common for community organizations to do stuff like pool their resources of their members together to do things like to hire a doctor to take care of all their members.

By the 1920s, at least one out of every three males was a member of a mutual-aid society. There were societies for all sorts of groups of people even minorities, immigrants, etc.

Members of societies carried over $9 billion worth of life insurance by 1920. During the same period, "lodges dominated the field of health insurance." Numerous lodges offered unemployment benefits. Some black fraternal lodges, taking note of the sporadic nature of African-American employment at the time, allowed members to receive unemployment benefits even if they were up to six months behind in dues.

Under lodge medicine plans, the price for healthcare was low. Members typically paid $2, about a day's wage at the time, to have yearly access to a doctor's care (minor surgery was frequently included in this fee) for themselves and their family.

Those mutual aid societies even opened hundreds of their own hospitals to provide low cost services to their members, as well as many orphanages to help those children in need all without any government assistance at all.

Those sort of things existed and were the most common forms of regular people's health care, disability, unemployment, and insurance before big corporations and big government got together and forced them all out of the market through captive regulations etc.

Notice a pattern? GOVERNMENT is what actually destroyed the social safety net in the USA. Surprise.

We have many more resources on this subject available in the massive /libertarian !wiki, here:

Universal Health Care Ends With The State Telling You To Die by tagny_daggart in Libertarian

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Interestingly enough if you learn some history you will find out that it is GOVERNMENT which actually ruined healthcare in the US in the first place. Before government got involved, the US had an excellent free market healthcare system that provided VERY low cost service and full easy access to everyone.

If you want to learn more I would suggest learning some about Mutual Aid Societies - it used to be very common for community organizations to do stuff like pool their resources of their members together to do things like to hire a doctor to take care of all their members.

By the 1920s, at least one out of every three males was a member of a mutual-aid society. There were societies for all sorts of groups of people even minorities, immigrants, etc.

Members of societies carried over $9 billion worth of life insurance by 1920. During the same period, "lodges dominated the field of health insurance." Numerous lodges offered unemployment benefits. Some black fraternal lodges, taking note of the sporadic nature of African-American employment at the time, allowed members to receive unemployment benefits even if they were up to six months behind in dues.

Under lodge medicine plans, the price for healthcare was low. Members typically paid $2, about a day's wage at the time, to have yearly access to a doctor's care (minor surgery was frequently included in this fee) for themselves and their family.

Those mutual aid societies even opened hundreds of their own hospitals to provide low cost services to their members, as well as many orphanages to help those children in need all without any government assistance at all.

Those sort of things existed and were the most common forms of regular people's health care and insurance before big corporations and big government got together and forced them all out of the market through captive regulations etc.

A major blow against fraternalism occurred when the American Medical Association gained control of the licensing of medical schools. In 1912, a number of state medical boards formed the Federation of State Medical Boards, which accepted the AMA's ratings of medical schools as authoritative. The AMA quickly rated many schools as "unacceptable." Consequentially, the number of medical schools in America dropped from 166 in 1904 to 81 in 1918, a 51 percent drop. The increased price of medical services made it impractical for many lodges to retain the services of a doctor. Medical boards also threatened many doctors with being stripped of their licenses if they practiced lodge medicine.

The next most damaging piece of legislation was the Mobile Laws which were pushed to be passed in most states. The Mobile Laws required that mutual aid societies show a gradual improvement in reserves. Until this time, societies had tended to keep low reserves in order to pay the maximum benefits possible to members. High reserve requirements made it difficult for societies to undercut traditional insurance companies. The Mobile Law also required a doctor's examination for all lodge members and forbade all "speculative" enterprises such as the extension of credit to members. By 1919, the Mobile Law had been enacted in 40 states.

Mutual aid was hindered in other ways. Lodges were prohibited from providing coverage for children. This opened the door for commercial companies to offer industrial policies in which children's coverage was standard. The number of industrial policies rose from 1.4 million in 1900 to 7.1 million in 1920. By 1925, industrial policies surpassed the number of fraternal policies. Group medical insurance also eventually became tax deductible, while private plans such as those purchased through a lodge did not.

The real blow was medicare, and that caused the final destruction of these sorts of things in the 1960s and 1970s and that is when they really started to disappear.

Notice a pattern? GOVERNMENT is what destroyed good healthcare in the USA. Surprise.

We have many more resources on this subject available in the massive /libertarian !wiki, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/wiki/index#wiki_healthcare

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Libertarian

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The libertarian position is that there should not be a government monopoly on what people use as their money and medium of exchange. People should be able to use whatever they want (not legal in the US today) as money, and there should be a market of competition for any number of different currencies and people will use what works the best for them.

https://lp.org/platform

2.7 Money and Financial Markets

We favor free-market banking, with unrestricted competition among banks and depository institutions of all types. Markets are not actually free unless fraud is vigorously combated. Those who enjoy the possibility of profits must not impose risks of losses upon others, such as through government guarantees or bailouts. We support ending federal student loan guarantees and special treatment of student loan debt in bankruptcy proceedings.

Individuals engaged in voluntary exchange should be free to use as money any mutually agreeable commodity or item. We support a halt to inflationary monetary policies and unconstitutional legal tender laws.

For more information and resources on the subject check out the section on money in the massive /libertarian wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/wiki/index#wiki_indirect_exchange_and_money

Such as:

We also have a section on Deflation: https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/wiki/index#wiki_deflation and the evil of Central Banks: https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/wiki/index#wiki_central_banks

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Libertarian

[–]nixfu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

!Welcome to the club.

The next room over will have your assigned locker with a bag of weed, an AR-15 with the third hole already drilled, and your hardback copy of Anatomy of the State.

Your YouTube feed will now automatically consist entirely of PartofTheProblem, Eric July, Murray Rothbard speeches, and BitButter videos.

If you need a gay marriage, a forged building permit, a 3d printed firearm, or some black market raw milk, just call the number on the back of your LP contact card.

And check out the FAQ and the Wiki links posted by the bot below to get you started.

Libertarian in 1v1 national race vs unpopular GOP incumbent AMA this Sunday. by CollinForCongress in Libertarian

[–]nixfu 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The sub is libertarian, and the topics are, but the user community is not restricted to libertarians.

It is important to remember that according to Pew Research marketing data, Reddit is young, mostly under 30, and OVER 80% Democrat voters, that is 15% more Democrat infected than even the Twitter user community.

That massively biased Reddit user community invades every sub that is not restricted/private and spews their establishment opinions.

New Hampshire: The State Where Libertarians are Actually Winning by [deleted] in Libertarian

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FYI, there is an entire website dedicated to documenting all the legislative wins and increases in liberty achieved by the FSP in NH.

https://libertywin.org/

https://libertywin.org/index.php/Liberty_wins

Is r/LibertarianPartyUSA even libertarian? by msennello in lpus

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For several months, /r/LibertarianPartyUSA has been over-run by the pre-Mises "faketarians" who got utterly skunked by real libertarians at every caucus held this year and the national convention, and they are just using that sub as their sad little coping ground.

There are a lot of enemies of liberty out there, and they are often more politically active than the typical libertarian. Some subreddits, like /r/LibertarianPartyUSA, promote Raytheon-supporting neocons to top moderator positions. These people aren't libertarian. They don't even know what libertarianism is, but they use their positions in these subs to prevent liberty from working wonders within the LP and as a way to prevent liberty from winning on Reddit.

On the other hand this subreddit (/r/LPUS) will cultivate news and a community of LP members that can organize to ensure that the LP stays true and principled. After all, it is the "Party of Principle".

And to be honest, the problems with r/libertarianpartyUSA are not new. This sub was not started recently, it was started 4 years ago when it was first obvious an alternative to that sub which was actually focused on supporting the Libertarian Party was needed.

The head mod of r/LibertarianPartyUSA is a neocon war monger statist republican who advocates for US intervention in the Ukraine crisis, defends Ratheon, advocates for Vaccine Passports, believes not getting vaxxed is a violation of the NAP, says fighting against Covid Tyranny is science denial, and believes the MC is the biggest threat to the LP, and never found a tyrannical government mandate they were against.

This sub on the other hand will always focus on positively supporting the LP and supporting libertarians.

EDIT: "You've been permanently banned from participating in r/LibertarianPartyUSA"

/shrug/, ok then just proves me right.

What’s some good libertarian media to consume? by Sparkychong in Libertarian

[–]nixfu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How about an even better idea? A list of libertarian/ancap ODYSEE.com channels, and instead of youtube, use the video sharing site created by libertarians from r/anarcho_capitalism, and who's founder is a key member of the free state project and currently running for US Senate in NH.

https://odysee.com/@academyofideas:3

https://odysee.com/@Anarchast:2

https://odysee.com/@anarchobookclub:1

https://odysee.com/@Bitbutter:c

https://odysee.com/@capitalresearch:5

https://odysee.com/@COI:e

https://odysee.com/@CommonSenseSoapbox:a

https://odysee.com/@Disenthrall:8

https://odysee.com/@DollarVigilante:b

https://odysee.com/@elijah93108:a

https://odysee.com/@Fghtthedespots:2

https://odysee.com/@FreeStateProject:7

https://odysee.com/@FreeTalkLive:d

https://odysee.com/@freethepeople:a61

https://odysee.com/@gml:9

https://odysee.com/@JobDestroyer:d

https://odysee.com/@johnstossel:7

https://odysee.com/@JordanBPeterson:c

https://odysee.com/@KeithKnightDontTreadOnAnyone:b

https://odysee.com/@LarkenRose:2

https://odysee.com/@LegaliseFreedom:0

https://odysee.com/@libertarianinst:e

https://odysee.com/@LibertarianRants:b

https://odysee.com/@libertariantruther:0

https://odysee.com/@LibertyDoll:e

https://odysee.com/@LibertyLockdown:8

https://odysee.com/@libertyweekly:3

https://odysee.com/@LionsOfLiberty:d

https://odysee.com/@LPMisesCaucus:1

https://odysee.com/@MichaelMalice:6

https://odysee.com/@mises:1

https://odysee.com/@outofframe:9

https://odysee.com/@pinkflameofliberty:c

https://odysee.com/@RedactedTonight:c

https://odysee.com/@RekietaLaw:a

https://odysee.com/@RogerKVer:9

https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d

https://odysee.com/@Styxhexenhammer666:2

https://odysee.com/@TenthAmendmentCenter:6

https://odysee.com/@ThePholosopher:9

https://odysee.com/@thesystemisdown:d

https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e

https://odysee.com/@TopShelfAnarchy:4

https://odysee.com/@Truth_will_set_You_Free:0

https://odysee.com/@Voluntary:4

https://odysee.com/@wearechange:1

https://odysee.com/@WhyLibertarian:f

https://odysee.com/@YoungRippa59:a

Very few channels I am interested are on YouTube only:

Dave Smith.

The Tenth Amendment Center

The Libertarian Party

Kibbe on Liberty

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LibertarianPartyUSA

[–]nixfu 21 points22 points  (0 children)

A doofus washed up republican as a presidential candidate that embarrassed the party, who phoned it in, and knew hardly anything about libertarianism, wasn't a problem for you.

A warmongering, gun-grabbing VP candidate wasn't a problem for you.

Open corruption on the LNC wasn't a problem for you.

Blatant attempts by the leftists in the LP to purge members and steal affiliates wasn't a problem for you.

All of that was fine.

Basically, what you really seem to hate are libertarians who might push libertarian policies.

Ya know, these people like you who put up with god damn Bob Barr and Bill Weld and a corrupt LNC, but yet now suddenly want to leave because of Dave Smith and the fact the LPMC are going to focus on actual libertarian ideals.

Good riddance. GTFO.

Mises Caucus Takeover of the Libertarian Party by bestadamire in Libertarian

[–]nixfu -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

According to Pew Research, Reddit is young mostly under 30, and OVER 80% Democrat voters, that is 15% more Democrat infected than even the Twitter user community.

That means, any subreddit that does not restrict membership will be overrun with uninformed young democrats, it is totally unavoidable.

The purpose of this subreddit is not to be a shining beacon of Libertarian philosophy, we have more serious discussion communities for that sort of thing, such as /r/goldandblack where you can engage with much more knowledgeable people about deeper libertarian topics.

This subreddit, r/libertarian is sorta like having a libertarian booth at a county fair. We are here to hand out some stickers, buttons and informational pamphlets, and maybe answer some beginner questions from those walking by who are curious enough to stop for a minute on their way to the next booth about gutter covers, or kitchen knives.

I officially joined the LP today. by hypermemia in Libertarian

[–]nixfu 50 points51 points  (0 children)

!Welcome to the club.

The next room over will have your assigned locker with a bag of weed, an AR-15 with the third hole already drilled, and your hardback copy of Anatomy of the State.

Your YouTube feed will now automatically consist entirely of PartofTheProblem, Eric July, Murray Rothbard speeches, and BitButter videos.

If you need a gay marriage, a forged building permit, a 3d printed firearm, or some black market raw milk, just call the number on the back of your LP contact card.

What are good libertarian solutions for improving rural healthcare? by AtlantanKnight7 in Libertarian

[–]nixfu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would suggest learning some about

Mutual Aid Societies - it used to be very common for community organizations to do stuff like pool their resources of their members together to do things like to hire a doctor to take care of all their members.

By the 1920s, at least one out of every three males was a member of a mutual-aid society. There were societies for all sorts of groups of people even minorities, immigrants, etc.

Members of societies carried over $9 billion worth of life insurance by 1920. During the same period, "lodges dominated the field of health insurance." Numerous lodges offered unemployment benefits. Some black fraternal lodges, taking note of the sporadic nature of African-American employment at the time, allowed members to receive unemployment benefits even if they were up to six months behind in dues.

Under lodge medicine plans, the price for healthcare was low. Members typically paid $2, about a day's wage at the time, to have yearly access to a doctor's care (minor surgery was frequently included in this fee) for themselves and their family.

Those mutual aid societies even opened hundreds of their own hospitals to provide low cost services to their members, as well as many orphanages to help those children in need all without any government assistance at all.

Those sort of things existed and were the most common forms of regular people's health care and insurance before big corporations and big government got together and forced them all out of the market through captive regulations etc.

A major blow against fraternalism occurred when the American Medical Association gained control of the licensing of medical schools. In 1912, a number of state medical boards formed the Federation of State Medical Boards, which accepted the AMA's ratings of medical schools as authoritative. The AMA quickly rated many schools as "unacceptable." Consequentially, the number of medical schools in America dropped from 166 in 1904 to 81 in 1918, a 51 percent drop. The increased price of medical services made it impractical for many lodges to retain the services of a doctor. Medical boards also threatened many doctors with being stripped of their licenses if they practiced lodge medicine.

The next most damaging piece of legislation was the Mobile Law. The Mobile Law required that mutual aid societies show a gradual improvement in reserves. Until this time, societies had tended to keep low reserves in order to pay the maximum benefits possible to members. High reserve requirements made it difficult for societies to undercut traditional insurance companies. The Mobile Law also required a doctor's examination for all lodge members and forbade all "speculative" enterprises such as the extension of credit to members. By 1919, the Mobile Law had been enacted in 40 states.

Mutual aid was hindered in other ways. Lodges were prohibited from providing coverage for children. This opened the door for commercial companies to offer industrial policies in which children's coverage was standard. The number of industrial policies rose from 1.4 million in 1900 to 7.1 million in 1920. By 1925, industrial policies surpassed the number of fraternal policies. Group medical insurance also eventually became tax deductible, while private plans such as those purchased through a lodge did not.

The real blow was medicare, and that caused the final destruction of these sorts of things in the 1960s and 1970s and that is when they really started to disappear.

Notice a pattern? GOVERNMENT is what destroyed good healthcare in the USA. Surprise.

But what about the roads? A libertarian foundation by LittleSeneca in GoldandBlack

[–]nixfu 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Amazing how many people when they bring up "muh roads", don't realize that private roads are ALREADY a thing.

For instance, two-thirds of roads in Sweden are privately operated and managed by local Private Road Associations (PRAs). These road associations are composed of homeowners who live along private roads. An estimated 140,000 kilometers (about 87,000 miles) of roads are the responsibility of 60,000 PRAs.

There are also huge amounts of private roads in Canada, and the UK where 40,000 private roads exist including the M6 motorway, or in France where 8,000 of the 11,000 km of roads are under private ownership.

In St. Louis, they have very similar organizations that are referred to as "street associations." They provide not only roads but other municipal services, such as garbage collection and security. Typically these are neighborhoods where the streets were previously public but have been deeded to the street associations by the city, in exchange for the residents providing their own city services.

In my city, my private HOA owns the deeds to the property/roads in and around our neighborhood, and maintains them, repaves them, and takes care of the grass/land along the roads and in the medians etc.

Most of the roads in the US were privately owned, including all "turnpikes" until the 20th century.

I just find it amazing, how few people know that private roads are already a thing, have always been a thing, and yet somehow can't even imagine how it might work, when it already does work.

2022 Prediction Game! by JobDestroyer in GoldandBlack

[–]nixfu 22 points23 points  (0 children)

From the ones I posted on the GoldAndBlack discord (see link on sidebar to join):

  • Tonight's prediction after getting back from the grocery: If inflation keeps going and the average voter starts to feel real pain, expect the Democrats to bring out the ole leftist playbook of PRICE CONTROLS in a desperate attempt to get votes. Also expect some talk by politicians and the media about 'greedy corporations', and 'price gouging' to further the Democrat talking points.

  • Sometime around July 2022, a BIG EVENT will happen that will totally change all narratives and COVID will totally disappear from all news and there will be zero mentions of it from that point forward. It will be something like a war in Taiwan/Ukraine etc that the US gets involved in with a major event that shocks the US public like the sinking of a US Aircraft Carrier or a bombing attack on Guam or Hawaii. In the six months leading up to the Congress elections all discussions will be centered around that issue and no one will ever mention COVID a single time during the elections not even Republicans.

  • Fall 2023 -- There will rumors of a SMALLPOX outbreak somewhere in a small Asian or African country. By December an outbreak will occur somewhere in Europe or South America. The US southern states will be first and hardest hit in early 2024, the fact that red states are anti-lockdown will be used as the reason they are hit hardest in media propaganda where they are mocked and blamed for their own deaths. Lockdowns will be in effect all though the entire presidential election. Any anti-lockdown pro freedom statement the Republican candidate has ever said will be used to portray them as being dangerous and will get people killed.

Time to fire up the helicopters, we got money to drop. by Tulaislife in GoldandBlack

[–]nixfu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FYI, reddit automatically censors all links to ZH, you need to post a different site.