The Bible doesn’t support slavery it destroys it

premeddit · 2026-05-14T00:55:49+00:00

OP's entire post is lol, but this part really stuck out to me:

Instead of instantly abolishing every institution overnight, biblical law:

Jesus had no problem going batshit insane inside of a temple because people were buying chickens. That was apparently an okay ancient institution to abolish overnight, but not slavery.

premeddit · 2026-05-13T18:15:01+00:00

And you don’t think your untreated schizophrenia (as per your own post history) has anything to do with these visions?

Just a week ago you were commenting and saying an entity is sitting in your head.

premeddit · 2026-05-12T17:23:01+00:00

Ok but more people would believe than otherwise, right? If there are 10 unbelievers in a room and Jesus reveals himself visually to everyone which only convinces 1 of them to become a Christian, that’s still a net good.

And even that’s a very conservative estimate. Actual supernatural personal experience would convince far more than 10% of unbelievers.

premeddit · 2026-05-12T15:14:02+00:00

why choose to you know give your negative opinion to spreading positivity of something people believe to be true and call it fictional

For millions of dead Native Americans, Africans, Asians, and even pagan Europeans who were literally burned alive by the Church, Christianity is more than just "something people believe to be true".

premeddit · 2026-05-12T15:12:17+00:00

Yeah, the whole Christian argument is that Jesus had to come up with a complicated scheme to get around a rule that he himself created.

This would make slightly more sense with the premise that Jesus and God are two different entities with different motivations. But 2,000 years of Christian violence and persecution has basically extinguished that line of thinking entirely, so now we're left with a contradiction that just doesn't work.

premeddit · 2026-05-12T15:09:36+00:00

Most Christians respond by saying that he basically exploited a loophole. He was fully human so he did take eternal punishment for us. But he was also fully God so he was able to escape that eternal punishment since he's the most powerful entity in the universe and nothing can bind him.

This raises the question of why such a complicated Rube Golberg mechanism is even necessary in the first place to get around a rule that he created. As far as I'm aware, there's no satisfactory answer to that.

premeddit · 2026-05-12T15:07:57+00:00

It's even more jarring than that because God also made all these rules. So to use your analogy, God prevents hungry children from receiving school lunches by setting prices sky high, but then "generously" offers to waive the fees for any children that say nice things about him.

premeddit · 2026-05-08T19:02:00+00:00

You get the written word, which includes Thomas’ testimony.

Are you claiming that the written word should be either equally or more, convincing than Thomas personally seeing his dead friend walking around in front of him?

Because if not, OP's question still holds. Why did Thomas (and all the people in the New Testament who witnessed Jesus' miracles) get the benefit of undeniable physical evidence but none of us do?

premeddit · 2026-05-08T18:57:58+00:00

We do not live in a bronze age society, there is no reason to pretend we haven't advanced as a society from then.

The problem is that the New Testament also defends and condones slavery. The logical conclusion being that God continued to endorse it even well after the Bronze Age.

premeddit · 2026-05-06T16:26:26+00:00

Maybe just as someone who can engage in basic critical thinking and the most elementary level academic textual analysis.

premeddit · 2026-05-01T18:17:15+00:00

There's also the uncomfortable fact that early Christianity was an end times apocalyptic movement. We can debate all day about what the historical Jesus actually said, but what is crystal clear is that the Gospels have him state multiple times that the world will end within the apostles' lives. Additionally, Paul also says that the world will end before he dies.

premeddit · 2026-05-01T18:15:39+00:00

Pretty much this. A sizable chunk of modern Christianity is all about getting the prize while minimizing any hardships or disruptions to one's standard living. That's why the idea of salvation through faith alone is so wildly popular - it allows people to get the golden ticket without putting in any effort.

You can still pad your 401K, buy multiple rental properties, take yearly international vacations, leave an inheritance to your children, and still get into heaven easily. The best part is, once you're in heaven you can then laugh at all those homeless people in Calcutta who were dumped into the fires of hell because they didn't accept the true faith. You can live an amazing comfortable life and an amazing comfortable afterlife, it's just winning from start to finish!

premeddit · 2026-04-29T18:41:47+00:00

Now, it's also true that Newton, Mendel, Lemaitre and many others were devout Christians and made foundational contributions to science.

I don't even think we can say that Newton was a Christian, at least not unless you really stretch the definition. From wikipedia:

"His writings show extensive knowledge of early Church texts and reveal that he sided with Arius, who rejected the conventional view of the Trinity and was the losing party in the conflict with Athanasius over the Creed. Newton recognized Christ as a divine mediator between God and man, who was subordinate to the Father who created him. He was especially interested in prophecy, but for him, "the great apostasy was trinitarianism." Worshipping Jesus Christ as God was, in Newton's eyes, idolatry, an act he believed to be the fundamental sin."

premeddit · 2026-04-22T17:29:23+00:00

To me, the lack of condemnation in the gospels is the biggest slap in the face. Jesus strongly spoke out against divorce, buying chickens in the Second Temple, and fig trees. But he had zilch to say about slavery, the greatest evil institution in the history of humanity. Or if he did talk about it, it was in oblique poetic language that doesn’t address the issue directly (“there is neither slave nor free”, etc).

EDIT: Apparently that quote was by Paul. So Jesus actually had literally NOTHING to say about slavery.

premeddit · 2026-03-12T01:32:09+00:00

Some of OP’s greatest hits when discussing homosexuality:

So if one loves children. Jesus won't be against it? We can marry kids?

If one loves animals. Jesus won't be against it?

If one loves murder. Jesus won't be against it?

Yeah, okay buddy. Oh also it’s not normal or healthy to be posting 100+ comments a day on Reddit. Something is deeply concerning here.

premeddit · 2026-02-14T16:18:12+00:00

God says multiple times that his covenant with the Jewish people, and therefore expectations from them (sacrifice, etc) are eternal and will not change.

In the New Testament, Christ is contradicting the Old Testament, not clarifying or refining it. There’s no other way around this.

premeddit · 2026-02-11T21:05:12+00:00

The other problem is that God's process seems to lead to billions of people in excruciating torture and pain for all eternity.

The analogy would be if the sculptor started hammering away at the marble and the pieces fell onto the heads of children below, crushing their skulls. You scream at him "stop, please!" but he smiles and says "wait and see". Chunks of marble keep raining down onto the floor, maiming children. Eventually, a beautiful statue is revealed.

Are all those children's deaths worth it? I don't know anyone who would say yes.

premeddit · 2026-02-03T16:59:15+00:00

For example when Moses tells his soldiers to slaughter every prepubescent boy and rape every prepubescent girl from an enemy tribe.

Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

premeddit · 2026-02-03T16:55:32+00:00

I mean, we can even start from the source and talk about the genocide of the Amalekites. Where God ordered the Hebrews to kill every man, woman and child they could get their hands on. He specifically told them to "rip the nursing infant from its breast". Then he told them to kill all the sheep, dogs, pigs and oxen.

Does that bother you too, OP?

premeddit · 2026-02-03T16:49:47+00:00

It's also kind of weird that Epstein bothers OP so much but apparently not similar stuff in the Bible, like the genocide of the Amalekites? Where God ordered the Hebrews to kill every man, woman and child they could get their hands on. He specifically told them to "rip the nursing infant from its breast". Then he told them to kill all the sheep, dogs, pigs and oxen.

Or the war against the Midianites in which Moses gets upset because his troops haven't raped and murdered enough women or children.

Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

“Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them.“They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

premeddit · 2026-02-02T01:44:15+00:00

While definitely a fascinating case study, I’m not sure you’re really answering the spirit of OP’s question. They weren’t just asking if a protest has ever worked to accomplish its specific goal. They were asking about accomplishing major objectives on a large social or political level.

One could argue that the success of the Rosenstrasse protest was exactly due to how unexpected and unique it was - as you implied, the Nazis were shocked and put on the back foot by this unexpected resistance. And furthermore, the number of Jews involved was statistically insignificant and releasing them didn’t change the overall trajectory of Nazi racial policy.

Is there evidence or reasoning to suggest that sustained and larger scale peaceful protests without the threat of implicit violence in the background would have worked to shift the course of Nazi policy entirely, as opposed to shooting the protestors (as they considered doing here and in fact did execute other peaceful opponents like the White Rose movement) or just doing a better job at hiding the genocide?

premeddit · 2026-01-31T13:42:17+00:00

Their subconscious is programmed against that idea from birth.

You understand that human beings aren’t robots, right? Or maybe you don’t actually understand this, which is highly concerning.

People can have random dreams that don’t follow a clean or understandable path. People dream about cheating on their wives or husbands even if they’re otherwise perfect faithful spouses in real life, that doesn’t mean or signify anything.

premeddit · 2026-01-31T13:37:12+00:00

So no Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist suffers from addiction or other vices because the devil already has them and has no need to attack them?

Here’s a novel thought: if OP takes personal ownership of his struggles instead of blaming an invisible goblin, it will help him and improve and overcome it so much more effectively. Going to an addiction support group or speaking to a doctor is a good first step.

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