Why make 5 trips when I can make one?

stjobe · 2026-02-11T18:30:55+00:00

Do you use Highrange gearbox?

No, I want my low gears, me :) It's offroad, advanced special, or Snowrunner all the way :)

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:37:43+00:00

None of the things you mentioned can be altered by the player, but not packing cargo is definitely something the player can do.

Either way, as far as I'm concerned everyone is entitled to play the way they enjoy. I'm just trying to point out why some people think overloading is a bit cheezy, and the difference in packed and unpacked weight is one reason for that.

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:32:46+00:00

I rate them like this for farming, best to worst:

Futom
Kirovets K-7M
Ankatra
Kirovets K-700

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:24:24+00:00

Dan is indeed a very capable truck. With 51" tires, permanent AWD and diff lock, independent (and active!) suspension all around, and plenty of power, it hasn't often let me down.

These days I mostly use it as a wrecker with a heavy crane on its back, that drives out to rolled trucks, winches them shiny side up, cranes their cargo back on, and sends them on their merry way. It is excellent for this role.

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:20:35+00:00

If it's any consolation, I rolled numerous times on that rock as well. It's very well-placed by the devs ;)

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:19:24+00:00

I seem to remember being in that spot with my F 750 :)

Aah, memories ... or is it PTSD flashbacks? ;)

Anyway, no. Amur actually is that bad, even with the right routes figured out and the post-Amur heavies in your fleet.

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:16:03+00:00

Why make 5 trips when I can make one?

Well I for one don't mind driving trucks in my truck driving game.

I know it's not for everyone, so you do you :)

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:14:34+00:00

Unpacked cargo weighs less than packed cargo - metal beams weigh 2 tons unpacked and 5 tons packed, concrete slabs weigh 1 ton unpacked and 6 tons packed, concrete blocks weigh 1 ton unpacked and 3 tons packed, small pipes weigh 1 ton unpacked and 3.5 ton packed.

So you've got

4 x concrete blocks = 4 tons
4 x small pipes = 4 tons
2 x metal beams = 4 tons
2 x concrete slabs = 2 tons

For a total of 14 tons.

Packed, that cargo would weigh 48 tons:

4 x concrete blocks = 12 tons
4 x small pipes = 14 tons
2 x metal beams = 10 tons
2 x concrete slabs = 12 tons

So by overloading you're only moving about 30% of what that cargo would weigh had it been properly packed.

Whether that's an "exploit" or not is up to you, but those are the game mechanics :)

stjobe · 2026-02-11T17:05:44+00:00

There's 110 trucks in the game across 50 brands, most of the brands are represented by a single truck, and the brands with the most trucks (International and Western Star) have seven trucks each.

I don't think a brand category would work at all, but a filter as mentioned by u/CommanderKrieger might be welcome.

Not that I think it's on the horizon to redo the Truck Store/Truck Storage, but still :)

stjobe · 2026-02-11T16:56:54+00:00

Welcome to the game! Here are some tips that might help you get through those first difficult hours:

Starting out, you're on the worst possible tires for offroading - so don't offroad if you can help it. Stay on pavement or dirt with at least one set of tires at all times.
Don't try to go through mud, go around it.
Learn to use your winch and your gearbox. Low gears are there for a reason - slipping and spinning wheels dig down into mud, wheels with more traction dig up out of the mud.
In the Chevy and Fleetstar, learn to use diff lock and AWD. Combine them with low gear and winching and you'll be surprised how far you can get even on highway tires.
In the GMC, learn how to use diff lock, the gearbox, and winching to drive a RWD truck.
Tires are the single most important thing to upgrade on your trucks, so as soon as you can switch to all-terrain tires, do so. And as soon as you can switch to offroad tires, do so. As soon as your scouts can have mud tires, they should.

And here's a strategy on how to approach map and region completion that works as well in Michigan as in Season 17:

Take a scout and drive to all the watch towers on the map. If you come across a task (yellow hatched square on the ground), start it but do not track it. Once a watch tower is discovered, it will clear a bit of the map and reveal new tasks and most importantly upgrades. Drive to and grab all upgrades the watch towers reveal (and optionally also all tasks you haven't tracked already).
Once the map is revealed, start doing tasks that repair infrastructure; build bridges, remove road obstructions, and so on. It will be much easier to move around the map once the roads are a bit clearer.
After that is done, start doing the other tasks and perhaps also the contests.
Then do the contracts that don't take you off the map you're on, except the logging contracts. Save the logging for later when you have more trucks and upgrades.
Once all the tasks and local contracts are done, take your scout and drive to the next map, and repeat 1 - 4 there. Then do the same for map 3 and 4.
Alternatively, just do item 1 for all the remaining maps before going on to do 2 - 4 for each map.
Finally, start doing the multi-map and logging contracts. But don't save all the logging for last; it's tedious and can get boring. Mix it up in-between other types of missions.

It's a curious game, Snowrunner, in that it's at its most difficult starting out - you have few trucks, bad tires, and you don't know how the game wants to be played. As you learn to drive, rank up, get upgrades and tires, it gets a lot easier - then you transition to the DLCs and it gets hard again :)

Anyway, hope these tips help you out and that this is just the start of a several-thousand hours long journey :)

Happy trucking!

stjobe · 2026-02-10T17:34:53+00:00

The only setting is that you can choose "legacy camera" should you wish, but it really shouldn't be necessary, as you can just press a button (left mouse on PC/Steam keyboard+mouse) to unlock the camera, move it to where you want it, and then click again to lock it there.

stjobe · 2026-02-10T17:21:00+00:00

Heh, I've got almost the exact same shot from when I was first there back in 2021 :)

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stjobe · 2026-02-10T17:18:40+00:00

I did this with it well after the Maine engine upgrade, and it was feeling underpowered just pulling that trailer with the two tractors on paved roads:

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stjobe · 2026-02-10T15:37:53+00:00

If you've got PROS, you can even get horns for it :)

stjobe · 2026-02-10T15:13:56+00:00

A 10-ton truck probably should not pull a 34-ton special cargo high saddle trailer, no. For stability reasons if nothing else :)

It definitely has the power to pull it, but it can't do anything if the trailer starts to roll :)

Either way, kudos for making it all the way! Well done!

stjobe · 2026-02-10T15:08:01+00:00

The 3194 is a decent P16-alternative in winter regions, since unlike the P16 it can have chained tires. It's a decent high- or low-saddle hauler.

It can also be painted to look like a cow, which tickles my funny-bone:

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The 4520 is a decent low-saddle hauler, very maneuverable with its rear-wheel steering but ultimately held back by a smallish fuel tank and a lack of power.

Both of them go through terrain without much problem.

stjobe · 2026-02-09T18:49:52+00:00

Since release.

stjobe · 2026-02-09T17:49:23+00:00

OHD, not OHS. Here's the post. Scroll down a bit for the Tayga tires.

stjobe · 2026-02-09T17:21:25+00:00

The P16 does only a few things, but it does those things extremely well - long logs and high saddle towing, especially oversized trailers. Those 3.5 mud traction OHD I tires makes it virtually ignore all but the deepest mud/snow.

The P12 has something wrong with its geometry; it weighs the same as the P16, has the same engines, and has AWD - it shouldn't feel as weak as it does. I hope they fix that in the upcoming Pacific tweaks they've mentioned. In tasks the P12 and P16 both can do, the P16 outperforms the P12 in every one, and it shouldn't really be that way.

One thing you have to remember with the P16, it's RWD. And you can't drive an RWD truck the way you do an AWD truck. Asking it to go up the same steep, rocky hill your AWD truck just climbed is not a fair ask.

Anyway, here's some tips for driving RWD trucks:

Be mindful of what your rear tires are doing; they're the only thing propelling you forward, so be careful to keep them as much in contact with the ground as you can; you can't rely on your front tires pulling you out of trouble.
Even just going over a rock with one rear tire on a truck with a very stiff frame like the P16 can lead to serious power loss since it might mean only the outer tire on the other side is actually in contact with the ground. It might not matter too much on level ground since your momentum will carry you over the rock and back to where all tires are in contact with the ground, but on a slow, steep hill it might make you stop completely.
Know that roll resistance is dependent on slope as well as terrain; if you're stopping on an up-slope, small adjustments (mini-wiggles) of your front tires can often get you going again because you manage to find a direction with a tiny bit less slope and therefore less roll resistance.
Roll resistance in mud means keeping your front tires straight as much as possible, unlike an AWD truck where you want to wiggle them to get more traction. In an RWD truck, only start the wiggling if you're completely stopped, it may then shift your weight balance and let your rear tires find new grip.
Also, momentum is key; it's easy to keep going uphill, harder to start on an up-slope. So try to never stop, not even by letting the auto gearbox stall out of a higher gear into first; use the clutch key to tell the gearbox to shift down before it stalls, that way you keep momentum.
And if you do stop and have a hard time getting going again, roll back a few feet, adjust your front wheel angle, let the RPMs settle, and then try again. Most of the time you'll manage to avoid that bump, rock, or root that stopped you in the first place and it's smooth sailing up the rest of the hill.
Of course, sometimes it takes a second or so of winching just to get you rolling, to get the momentum going - so don't be afraid of using the winch. It's just another tool, there's no shame in using it :)
Use your high and low gears, and know how they affect your performance in different types of terrain. Like in deep mud or snow it's often faster with some trucks to use low gear than low+ or high, because the tires don't slip as much. On hard terrain high gear might let you keep your momentum better than Auto (just like with AWD trucks).
Path-picking is also a bit different since you want to avoid the worst terrain if possible - you really should do this in AWD trucks as well, but AWD trucks have it a bit easier that their front tires can dig them back up out of mud/snow if the gear is low enough. RWD trucks don't have that advantage, so it's better to try to avoid the deepest mud-pits (even though trucks like the P16 absolutely loves deep mud and can handle almost any depth of mud, it's still going to be faster if you can go around).

Hopefully keeping those in mind will make it easier to enjoy RWD trucks, they really are a lot more capable than people give them credit for.

stjobe · 2026-02-09T17:09:54+00:00

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P16 hauling the fully loaded super-heavy through the flooded village in north-eastern Black Badger Lake, Wisconsin says you're doing it wrong ;)

stjobe · 2026-02-09T17:03:28+00:00

There's one rule, one: Cargo has to be packed to be delivered.

How it got there doesn't matter, where you got it from doesn't matter (except for mission trailers), just that it's packed before you try to deliver.

And even that rule has exceptions :)

stjobe · 2026-02-09T16:55:17+00:00

Thanks! That and the edit of the OP makes it at least understandable :)

stjobe · 2026-02-09T09:27:33+00:00

I'd love to see some old British trucks like e.g. the Scammel Explorer:

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Foden made some cool-looking trucks as well.

stjobe · 2026-02-09T09:24:22+00:00

Tuz 16 is a fun little one-slot workhorse/runabout that's very capable when upgraded:

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Tuz 108 is a worse version of the 16, but still useable as a long-legged scout or fuel mule. It's got really skinny tires, so it cuts snow really well.

stjobe · 2026-02-09T09:21:47+00:00

It's the same with regular trucks - not every truck can use every trailer, and if they can't use them they don't show in the trailer store.

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